Battlefield 6: A Thorn In Streamers Side

Gregory (00:21.687)
What is up, everybody? Welcome back to another week of the GZ Chop Shop gaming podcast. I'm your host, Greg. Join my my good friends and co-host for this week, Yuli and Ty. We got a full panel because we got some stuff we got to talk about. We got some things we got to get off our chest. It is we had games come happen. So there's tons of releases about that. But. We got to talk about Battlefield six. I'm pretty sure we got to play the beta.

The beta has been amazing. It's been a really, really great time. Amazing. Like I'm loving what EA is crafting with Battlefield 6. It seems like they learned from Battlefield 2042 and they're like, all right, we're not going to repeat those mistakes. But then here come the competitive streamers onto the scene. And it's it's been ridiculous. It's a lot of back and forth. The community.

the competitive streamers, they're all coming in and they're like, well, where's the battle royal? Where's the it's got to need a battle pass. This game is going to die. Yada, yada, yada. And they don't get it. I don't I don't think they get it. There's there's so many things that are just wrong with what they're saying. But I know you guys have had some thoughts on it and I'll share my thoughts after you guys. What do you guys think? What do you think?

Burnx23 (01:41.814)
know people just saw my face with that.

Uly (01:44.078)
All right, first off we're not gatekeeping battlefield. All right, it's for everyone. We appreciate you all coming in You just got to remember you got to play your roles Everybody that's complained that I heard is they they don't want to the roles you want to be assault But you want to stay in the back that but okay, but you know, you got to push in you're the forward person You know your support Heal, you know throw down a med-pack res people up. Don't say like why am I playing a healer?

and be like, why am not healing people? Why is no one healing me? It's because you're not doing your role. No one's going to do their role for you. It always happens. You have squad mates. You see one person not doing their job. You're not going to help that person. That person is dead to you mid game. Just play your role. We're not gatekeeping it from you. We're just telling you. It's not like other games. We play as a team. We win as a team.

Burnx23 (02:31.17)
The with that whole statement, right? People are acting like this is a brand new IP. It's not. Battlefield's been out for ages now, right? You can't tell me all these people have never touched a Battlefield game, never seen a Battlefield game, and did not know this, right? The problem lays into we have this mindset where everybody thinks they are a top tier streamer or a top tier competitive player, and they need that. And it's like, I don't care.

Like Battlefield was never meant for that. It's a hundred people on one field going. It is a shooting simulator essentially, right? Because you have to take in so many different factors. Wind, bullet drop, distance, everything else like that. Like you can't just go do a 360 no scope in Battlefield. I mean, well, let me change that. You can do that, but it takes a lot more effort than...

Gregory (03:31.477)
Yeah, you'll probably get dropped, have a building dropped on you while you're trying.

Burnx23 (03:35.02)
Cool, that's fine. And then people are like, where's all the squash trees? I mean, just hop in the tank. Nah, that ain't the same. What? You can literally hop in the tank and just go. Just do it, bro. Like, what's your problem?

Gregory (03:50.98)
Yeah, and you know, there was a video that you you put in our Chat, you'll be off by King Erd. I keep want to call him King there. It just seems easier to say And I had to agree with most of what he was saying and it's a lot of the these big streamers that they know they have pool They know they have influence because they were on the competitive scene The thing is they don't want to let go of that luster they had when they were in their prime

Uly (04:00.418)
Hahaha

Burnx23 (04:01.378)
Hmm

Gregory (04:19.041)
So Battle Royals is where they thrive. You know, you got Tim the Tap Man, Nick Merckx, XQC, if people actually can understand what he's saying half the time. And they are coming in and they're like, the game needs a battle pass, the game needs Battle Royale. they're like, and they're basically saying for them, like they're not really considering.

the battlefield community as a whole. game is over like 20 years old with over 13 entries. There's a reason it keeps going. It's because it doesn't need that. And if they were so adamant about battlefield needing battle royal, why are they not playing Firestorm?

Burnx23 (04:58.466)
Not even that if now all of a sudden it needs a battle royal mode. Like where were you with 2042? Where were you with Battlefield 1? Where were you with all these others? Battlefield 5, right? Where were you with all these other ones that were quite literally 50 verse 50? And essentially just a battle royal with revives. Like.

y'all just now getting into it because y'all are more concerned with, and I still laugh at this comment, the Black Ops 6 reveal, I mean 7 reveal, not 6. The top comment on the video is, well, this just made my Battlefield purchase solidified.

Gregory (05:44.546)
Yeah, and I think that's the same thing. I think the problem is they've all. All together, all of them, every Cod streamer out there that everyone knows by face and name, they have diluted Call of Duty so much they're bored with their own product. They they at this point, they're like, OK, we've made Cod bend the knee so much it's not even entertaining for us or the fans anymore because they'll do whatever we want. So.

Burnx23 (05:44.875)
It's like.

Gregory (06:12.961)
We need another IP that'll bend the knee and they're trying to inch their way in to battlefield because now there's so many of them on Cod. They're competing not only with each other, which is not what they want because then they're no longer dominating because now they're like, crap, I got to compete with another person that's on my skill level. That's not entertaining when I die and then I got to constantly play it off. So let me go into this game. I usually don't play, try to come in as this dominator.

but now you're in a game that's about teamwork, support, playing your role, not how many kills you get and how cool you can make it look. And then when you get your 30, 40, 50 kills, one death, but your team still lost because you didn't play your role, you want to say, well, you know, this is bad. This is why he needs a battle royal. No, you need a battle royal because that's what you do.

And I get it, hey, make your money and make it however you can. But there's other games out there that you could be helping elevate that are battle royal centric.

Burnx23 (07:16.222)
Yeah, no.

Uly (07:16.526)
No, I mean we we know this a lot of games have been coming out with battle royale halo came out with the battle royale Where is halo infinite? They? Split gate split and we saw the video it mentioned split gate. I forgot split gate had a battle royale They rolled it back battle royal is not a winning formula only for certain games warzone wanted but warzone was only good because they had blackout to to kind of like take notes from and I still think blackout was the better battle royale when it comes to Call of Duty

Burnx23 (07:24.236)
and look what happened there.

Gregory (07:30.53)
Yeah.

Uly (07:47.266)
that one was extremely fun. I think that you can have a battle rail in Battlefield. We had it. We had Firestorm. It was fun. The formula doesn't mix with the gameplay very well, but it was still fun. But you can still have it just, you know, we know what's going to happen. It's going to come out. It's going to have Firestorm version two. You're going to play for a week, maybe a month, and then drop it because Warzone dropped season 17 or whatever.

And then you're just back into that and then you're back into Fortnite as well. It's like, there's a few games that Battle Royale will work and then there's some games that won't. This is one of those where the formula can fit and could work, but it won't mix with the crowd. isn't because the crowd is clips, know, 30 minute videos of things happening and just entertainment nonstop. Battlefield is entertainment nonstop if you play your role. I'll watch a video of someone playing 30 minutes support, just running around with a defib healing because it's fun.

Watching them do their role in healing like and you'll see that the top players aren't the players with the most kills or The most deaths is the player that did their job the best they got the points they took they took Point they took point they took objectives They got all the reses or they took out tanks and they took objectives. They did their job They knew what they were supposed to do and that would made it fun. Like, you know Recently I was playing people who only play Call of Duty and I had to teach him. It's like hey Chris your engineer

Don't tell me to do a tank, I'm support, you're the engineer, you have an RPG, you have the blowtorch, go out, handle the tank. And once they started learning their roles, the game was so much more fun for them. Because they knew it was like, I'm not here to beat the other team into submission, I'm here to make sure we win by doing our job. And that's what made the game fun for us.

Burnx23 (09:30.476)
Mm-hmm.

Gregory (09:33.348)
And I think that's something that's lost on a lot of players that also adapt the fellow competitive mentality of the streamers as well as because, you know, I went on social. I was on social media and I was just curious. And it seems like the majority of people who are battlefield fans are, you know, feeling the same way. They're like, look, it doesn't need it. It works. Just let us have a game that doesn't have rankings, that doesn't have all this extra stuff. Just let us. We want to just jump in. We want to play with our friends.

We want to win, we want to lose, we want to learn stuff, and then we just go on about our lives. If we put it down for a few months, no biggie. If we come back in a week or so, great. But a lot of the, I guess you could say they might be Call of Duty, they might be Fortnite players. They're like, well, what am I logging in for? If not to earn my rank, what am I logging in for if not to be at the top of the food chain? And it's like, like.

Burnx23 (10:20.642)
Play the game, bro. Like, like.

Uly (10:24.622)
You log in

Gregory (10:25.539)
You log in for fun. A lot of people have forgotten what the whole purpose of video games originally was because everything has catered to the competitive nature of video games. And they feel that FPS is all have to be this try hard sweat fest that they've seen online. And it's like, but no, because

Burnx23 (10:39.543)
Mm-hmm.

Gregory (10:54.219)
A lot of FPSs back in the day were single player games and they were phenomenal. And if they weren't phenomenal, FPSs wouldn't even have thrived today. It was the single player FPSs that are the cornerstone for what FPSs are today.

Burnx23 (11:11.004)
L one of my favorite FPS is bullet storm and that was a solo campaign heaven. Like the problem that I have with it is that so many people, know, unfortunately part of it is because it's EA. So many people think they can bully EA because EA has been bullied plenty. And look like just look at the last 10 years, right? Look at Titanfall, right?

EA got bullied out of making Titanfall 3 for Battle Royale.

Uly (11:42.242)
Rest in peace.

Gregory (11:43.779)
for Apex.

Burnx23 (11:46.912)
And then Apex got bullied by the streamers to do what the streamers wanted. And then when the streamers didn't like it, they're like, y'all didn't listen to us. Y'all not caning or anything.

And now look, we're watching it slowly die. Let EA for once in their life do the good thing that they're working on and leave it be. Like, leave them alone with it.

Gregory (12:08.503)
And I don't want to take anything away from content creators and streamers. get it. Once you've entered the streaming ecosystem and you happen to find that success, you're kind of locked in. Whatever got you that success, you kind of are like, your soul is sold to it. You've got to keep at it. You got to keep up with it. A lot of people are watching you for that game that made you popular. And a lot of them, when they deviate, they find out they lose views. So they wind up having to come back to it.

and games that they swore they would never play. They wind up finding out actually did really well. But I do feel that, you know, with a lot of games, you're allowed to have the opinion. Everyone is allowed to have an opinion like, you know, but I feel like it more should be like of the game mechanics, not a feature that they might not even want to add because it doesn't add anything to the game for them. And

I also feel that while being competitive is a part of gaming, it should not eclipse video games as a whole. And that's a huge, huge issue right now. It seems like a lot of people have lost enjoyment in video games if they can't be competitive. It's like, well, if I'm not logging on and ruining someone's day or getting mad because someone's ruining my day, then there's no point in playing a video game. And I'm like,

That's not really the essence of video games. mean, whatever floats your boat, do you. But don't expect the entire industry to bend a knee specifically to you. Not every game has to be your game like.

Burnx23 (13:38.754)
Mm-hmm.

Burnx23 (13:44.78)
So.

Burnx23 (13:49.684)
Right.

Uly (13:50.447)
Well, not every popular game has to cater to what you want to do. Like that's why people are talking a lot about it. It's a popular game. It came back with a fury, like 2042 kind of disappointment got picked up at the end, but then they announced six brought the beta out and all the gloryness, the fun we had. We had just an amazing time. We were just, we can't explain it. We felt, I'm pretty sure most of us felt like we were back in like PS3, Xbox 360 days with battlefield bad company.

Gregory (13:53.696)
Exactly.

Burnx23 (14:06.562)
Right.

Gregory (14:17.261)
Yep. Battlefield 4.

Uly (14:19.818)
I feel for like, those were the days. And that's the feeling we love.

Burnx23 (14:20.084)
Yeah.

Burnx23 (14:24.45)
And that's the whole point. Like, yo, we're just trying to enjoy the game. Like trying to enjoy the moment, catch a vibe. That's it. But so many people are hell bent on it not being a vibe, it being a skill check, right? Why do I need every game to be a skill check for, oh, this is how you make the most money. Like.

Part of it is a lot of people don't realize streaming is still niche, right? And for every big name streamer that makes 100, 200, 300 K easy in like a stream or so, there's the other 98 % that maybe get like 10 people in one stream. So it's like, you can't sit here and be like, oh, whoa.

I can't get those views if this game doesn't have what I want. Like, cool, go to your brother and and call it a day. Don't sit here and ruin everything for everybody else because guess what? This game could end up being that game that gets that person 100, 200, 300K views in a single setting.

instead of the 10 that they had because that's the game they wanted to play right but y'all want to be selfish and y'all wanted everything to cater to you which damned if you do damned if you don't i'm trying to wash my mouth though

Gregory (15:57.464)
Yeah, it's definitely going to be an uphill battle for sure. Because I think honestly, at the end of the day, biggest problem is we put the competitive streamers on too high of a platform and they've gotten way too much sway. That it's. It's changed a lot of the gaming ecosystem in a way that you like I said earlier, you see a lot of people enjoying video games less and less and less.

And it's because a lot of games are forgoing that single player experience. Well, while single player games are coming back, there's still that pushback because a lot of people are like, it's not online. It's not multiplayer. I'm not interested. And it's like, OK, that's cool. But that the rest of us don't feel that way. You know, you play what makes you happy.

Uly (16:47.628)
I think it's just also the popularity of the games. It's like the most popular games are the one with the multiplayer because when we know that, you know, we play all of us here love our single player games. We, play the hell out of it. We, we, we see that, you know, when we go online to find other forms or other pages for the single player games, there's a lot of love. It's just as much. It's just, we get pushed to popularity because that's what the algorithm says. Like, this is getting a lot of views right now. Let me push this out instead of what we want to see. You know,

I like going to the harvest all reddit and you know, seeing people's productions and how they do everything or their star do Valley productions and like, Oh, maybe I can use that, that, that, but with, every post I see on those two games, I'm seeing like six or seven black, uh, black ops seven, you know, uh, pub G fortnight post for like, it, it's just what the algorithm is. It seems like it's a lot, but there's still some way that it's just as popular. just, it's not being pushed. Cause the algorithm says no.

Gregory (17:44.802)
Yeah. And the crowd is usually louder on that that side as as well. Honestly, I think at the end of the day, too, and this is my personal opinion because this is how opinions work, It's a validation thing to a lot of people feel that they can't enjoy a video game unless they're getting some kind of validation out of it. And you only get that validation from other players. And if you and let's be honest, a lot of people enjoy being trolls.

and online games gives you that freedom because unlike when you used to play couch games, your friend was right next to you. You would talk smack, but you were also careful about the smack you talk to because you didn't want to get too crazy. And you know that if anyone talked too crazy to you, it was going to be some hands for real. But now, because everyone can hide behind their screen halfway across the world, they're like, yo, let you know, I'm all about it lately, you know.

Burnx23 (18:20.598)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Burnx23 (18:29.41)
Mm-hmm.

Gregory (18:43.009)
Let's get online and ruin some people's day until my day gets ruined.

Uly (18:48.066)
my average Friday night.

Burnx23 (18:48.226)
There's a reason somebody else is laughing.

Gregory (18:50.435)
I'm just saying, I'm just saying that's just my personal opinion.

Uly (18:54.516)
I okay for everyone to know my motto for most these multiplayer games is I don't care we win or lose as long as the other team isn't having fun.

Burnx23 (19:04.394)
And that is why I was sitting here trying not to die that whole time.

Gregory (19:07.383)
Yeah, you, you, these are baked in baked in troll.

Uly (19:11.02)
I'm the baked in troll. Every time everybody's like, damn, we're not winning. I'm like, all right, cool. Let me ruin the other team's day. And I make one thing extremely hard for them just because they get so mad and it's so fulfilling for me sometimes.

Gregory (19:16.066)
Let me go be a pain.

Burnx23 (19:22.742)
smoke my house.

Uly (19:24.686)
Hahaha

Gregory (19:25.099)
And don't worry, he trolls his own teammates as well. So it's equal across the board. It's equal. But what are your guys' thoughts? Do you think the streamers are right? Do you think they should have a say in these games? Or do you think Battlefield is doing fine the way it is and it needs it just needs to focus on what it's got. And if it adds Battle Royale later, but not as a priority, cool. They'd love to hear your thoughts. So let us know in the comments section down below.

Uly (19:27.475)
a lot more. That's equal. Everybody free for all.

Uly (19:54.872)
Keep it civil...ish.

Gregory (19:55.896)
Yeah, keep it civil. Keep it civil. Don't have any...

Burnx23 (19:57.794)
Please keep it still.

Uly (19:59.369)
We don't want to unleash the burn on you.

Gregory (20:01.825)
Yeah, because some of you guys get a little crazy in the comments.

Uly (20:04.962)
You guys know Ty. Ty is calling right now. Wait till you meet Burn. There's a reason we call him Burn.

Gregory (20:10.145)
Yeah, there's there's two different sides. You all don't want that. You all don't want that. But games come opened up and who I was telling you guys, said my wish list went from manageable back to disgusting in a in a good way. Not so good for my wallet, but it's about to be some broke struggles. But man, games come came out strong and

Burnx23 (20:11.362)
trying to be a happy person. That's all.

Uly (20:17.773)
Oof.

Burnx23 (20:31.98)
Get old broke struggles.

Uly (20:34.826)
options.

Gregory (20:40.279)
I know a lot of people are hung up on GTA six. I'm like, Hey, you know what? Whatever. What floats your boat? But there are so many good games that got announced that are one even rolling out before the year ends. Like we kind of, we were kind of thinking like game of the year was already going to be like we already. All right. We knew these games are going to be in the game awards and we thought we had to figure it out. And then there's so many deserts are like, no, no, no. That that's

Burnx23 (20:55.115)
Mm-hmm.

Gregory (21:10.595)
We still got Q4, Q3, like.

Burnx23 (21:13.11)
We got fourth quarter, you-

Gregory (21:15.979)
Yeah, we still got some games to drop on y'all.

Uly (21:19.475)
God, who wants to start off with their number one game that they saw that they want?

Gregory (21:24.535)
Okay, well, this one was already announced before, but now that Square has dropped another trailer for it, Final Fantasy Tactics Remaster.

Burnx23 (21:35.106)
Right up there. Right there.

Gregory (21:37.155)
That chef's kiss, chef's kiss, that is absolutely one of my number ones for sure. And then I didn't even know this game existed, but as a horror buff, when I saw Kronos.

Uly (21:39.116)
Right.

Burnx23 (21:54.168)
yeah.

Uly (21:54.527)
yeah.

Gregory (21:55.49)
I was like, especially since EA dropped Dead Space again, there's that void. then, you know, Bluebird comes in and they're like, hey, we weren't just done with the Silent Hill remake. We got another, you know, another gem of a horror game for you. And I was actually watching a YouTuber, the Rad Brad play it. And I was like, OK, this this is looking really good. It's got the Dead Space vibe, but it's still its own.

Burnx23 (22:00.802)
Hmm.

Gregory (22:22.861)
thing, the monsters are not pushovers. I'm with it. So yeah, that went on my wish list immediately as a as a horror fan. was like, yeah, no, that's that's going on there. But yeah, but Final Fantasy drop in September, it just bothers me that it's not like September 5th like some of the other games. It's like towards the end of September and I'm like, damn it.

Burnx23 (22:44.852)
It's end of September, yeah. Cause what? It's not really, not really, no.

Uly (22:48.224)
This gives you time to save the money though.

Gregory (22:50.463)
Yeah, because that's I got what was that told you guys I have like eight games for September and then eight games for October that's and that's all games that have been announced

Uly (22:53.16)
in October alone.

Burnx23 (23:02.338)
I Final Fantasy. I know, I know a lot of people are gonna be like, oh, you care about that? I care about Borderlands 4. I'm giving Borderlands 4. I know I'm giving Borderlands 4. It has been part... Oh, I love that game.

Gregory (23:14.605)
Which is understandable. And just so you know, he's not getting the collector's edition, folks. He's not getting the collector's edition.

Uly (23:14.884)
you care about that game?

Uly (23:20.174)
That is still funny.

Burnx23 (23:22.731)
I am not getting the physical collector's edition that doesn't come with the game. I refuse.

Gregory (23:24.611)
The physical collector's edition.

Uly (23:26.862)
Alright guys, I feel sorry for whoever got that. It says on the bottom corner of this text, it does not include game. God, that just hurts so much.

Burnx23 (23:39.008)
I'm getting Sonic Racing, because you know what? I'm a kid at heart. I'm getting Sonic Racing. I don't care. It's Sonic. Let me live. Everybody's like, what about Mario Kart? You know what? Let Sonic live.

Gregory (23:44.547)
Doesn't always have to be Mario Kart.

That was the other one too. was like Sonic Crossroads coming out. Yeah.

Uly (23:52.205)
Mario Kart is own corner that Mario Kart is in its own realm. It doesn't need competition, but we're to go over here still.

Gregory (23:59.63)
Yeah, yeah, I I miss the glory days of when I would on my ps3 because I still have what was it all stars transform racing was like the last sonic game sonic racing game and I was like it was something about it. It was just like amazing to me and I was like this is this is awesome. So when I saw cross worlds, I was like, okay, they haven't abandoned it Sega and Capcom. They've been

Burnx23 (23:59.958)
Yes.

Burnx23 (24:10.304)
Yeah.

Burnx23 (24:19.487)
Yeah.

Burnx23 (24:26.732)
Mm-mm.

Gregory (24:29.357)
They've been they've been cooking. They have been cooking. And I'm like, let them cook. Let me get on Crossworld. I will enjoy that even if I lost every single race, just because it I'm just a fan of it.

Burnx23 (24:30.687)
Again!

Uly (24:30.754)
Cookin'. They've been cookin'.

Burnx23 (24:36.802)
again.

Burnx23 (24:46.752)
Like I told you the last time we did the pod together, Capcom has been like my favorite developer in the last like five years. Well, no, when did the remake of 2 come out? 2018?

Gregory (25:03.763)
that was like, that was pre COVID.

Uly (25:03.96)
Let let me double check that.

Burnx23 (25:06.914)
Yeah, so 2018, I think. They cooked with that.

Gregory (25:10.123)
Yeah, cause I was, I was still streaming on Twitch when that happened. I beat the game one on Twitch.

Burnx23 (25:13.44)
Yeah. Yeah, they cooked with that. Three was a little bit disappointing. Yeah, you know. Eight, they cooked with eight. Well, pretty much once they had seven, once they dropped RE7, they have pretty much been consistent bangers since RE7.

Gregory (25:20.673)
Yeah, it shortened it.

Uly (25:22.638)
2019.

Uly (25:33.592)
Yeah.

Burnx23 (25:34.572)
from Capcom. Like, yeah, there's a couple little, whatever. Like, Pragmata? I'm getting that. I think that was the name of it. Pragmata?

Gregory (25:41.793)
are you thinking Pragmata or are you thinking Daemon Machina? Pragmata is still looking good though.

Uly (25:47.0)
Demon Monk, no, yeah, Titanic.

Burnx23 (25:47.998)
No, I'm thinking Pragmata. Damon Mockin is another game I want, but Pragmata is the Capcom game that's coming out with the little girl child.

Gregory (25:55.414)
Yeah, OK, yeah, so that's pragmatic. Yeah, that's pragmatic. But speaking of Capcom, yeah, I would say the only that's the horror game that tops Kronos on my list is because of Resident Evil Requiem. my goodness, that trailer to gameplay. beautiful fluid.

Uly (25:56.235)
Yeah, yeah, yeah

Uly (26:08.142)
that's on my list.

Burnx23 (26:12.565)
Yeah.

Uly (26:15.586)
bring first-person horror game and they've been doing it so goddamn well.

Burnx23 (26:21.068)
and they give you the option of third person. That means I get to play it with freedom. Cause I don't, I don't play first person horror. No, but I mean, forget that.

Uly (26:23.116)
Yeah.

Gregory (26:23.915)
You can finally play.

Uly (26:28.16)
Yeah

Gregory (26:30.433)
I mean, get into this. Have you actually gone back to eight? They added the third person for you.

Uly (26:35.064)
They added a third person. No, no, no, no.

Burnx23 (26:35.328)
I I know, I haven't touched it. I've watched the video, I've seen it played all the way through. No, the baby, it's the baby. The baby ruined the whole thing for me.

Gregory (26:41.089)
I guess, yeah, they did it so late.

Uly (26:42.306)
No, I... So good. No, that's the best part. That was the best mission.

Burnx23 (26:48.394)
I'm not getting swallowed by an infant.

Uly (26:50.03)
That was hard that's why I liked it

Gregory (26:50.529)
The baby was horrifying. I mean, no matter how many times I replay that, that horrifying.

Burnx23 (26:52.489)
Exactly.

Uly (26:56.218)
going to another one that's coming out that I'm so excited Silent Hill F dude that one looks so damn scary I'm like I'm ready I am ready to be terrified

Gregory (27:01.249)
Silent Hill F.

Burnx23 (27:02.644)
looks free.

Gregory (27:08.387)
And my goodness, and that's what the beginning of the month?

Burnx23 (27:08.706)
Yeah.

Uly (27:12.696)
beginning of the month. Yeah.

Burnx23 (27:12.918)
Yeah, Ninja Gaiden 4. I want to play Ninja Gaiden.

Gregory (27:16.727)
Ninja Gaiden 4 looks good. I know a lot of people are like on the fence because they said it's not looking like the usual Ninja Gaiden, but that's kind of the point because they're introducing new characters.

Burnx23 (27:25.164)
Yeah, well, that and a lot of people fell away about three.

A lot of people hated 3. 3 wasn't that bad. But a lot of people felt 3 was like a step down compared to 2. 2 was on a pedestal that you can't really top.

Gregory (27:44.292)
The thing about video games too, they suffer from the same issue that movies suffer from. The first movie, unless it's absolutely horrible and it's not a remake, if it's something completely original, it's really hard to put it down because it's a completely original idea. So it just comes down to did the actors do their roles well and did the script make sense? If you got those two formulas, you can't really put down

Burnx23 (28:07.426)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Gregory (28:13.255)
a brand new IP of a movie and a brand new IP of a game because it's an original process. Then the second one is like, now can you continue and build upon the world you've created? At that point, expectations are high and people are just excited to see it continue.

Burnx23 (28:31.582)
I call that the Terminator effect. T1, most people don't ever talk about Terminator 1, right? Cool, it was there, it was cool, it was a horror movie, right? A lot of people, mm. Yeah, T2 is still looked at as probably top five best modern sci-fi flicks to ever exist.

Gregory (28:44.822)
Robotic Car.

Uly (28:45.902)
I'm glad that.

Uly (28:58.402)
five movies of all time.

Burnx23 (29:00.258)
T3 I can name about a handful of people that like t3 and then everything after that has been T2 It just fucked everything up

Gregory (29:01.943)
Nobody talks about T3.

Uly (29:09.954)
on.

You can't remake T2 like that anymore. It's unbeatable.

Burnx23 (29:16.532)
No. And it holds up so well.

Gregory (29:17.813)
It's the same thing with the Star Wars saga. Everyone likes Star Wars, A New Hope, and they're like, cool, great. Empire Strikes Back, everyone's like absolute cinema. And then Return of the Jedi, they're kind of like, OK, all right, yeah, cool. And and yeah. The and the same thing with the X-Men movies, the X-Men that everyone was like. Cool, got to see everybody on screen.

Burnx23 (29:23.254)
Mm-hmm.

Burnx23 (29:33.122)
Uly (29:34.466)
Yeah, it ended. At least you ended it.

Burnx23 (29:44.236)
Cool.

Gregory (29:47.123)
X2, not absolute cinema, but it was dang good. And then last stand, everyone was like, what the hell is this?

Burnx23 (29:47.443)
X2

Uly (29:52.024)
So good. And the next three.

Burnx23 (29:52.254)
X3.

Burnx23 (29:58.44)
Same thing happened with the, I can't even call it remakes because they're all interconnected again. So first class people were like, this is kind of cool. But okay. Days of futures pass because they interconnected everything. People were like, yep.

Uly (30:04.453)
The time delusion ones?

Gregory (30:05.567)
when, okay, yeah, the alt, the...

Gregory (30:17.827)
It's absolute cinema.

Burnx23 (30:20.802)
Ask somebody how they felt about X-Men apocalypse. Here's the thing about Dark Phoenix. Dark Phoenix really ain't that bad. It's really not that bad. Dark Phoenix suffers from two very big things that a lot of people didn't realize about. The original enemy was supposed to be the squirrels. Guess what Marvel had beef with? Marvel's like, y'all not using the squirrels. Hell no. Fox, no. You're not using the squirrels. Have fun.

Uly (30:23.522)
or Dark Phoenix, or Dark Phoenix.

Gregory (30:29.312)
It isn't.

Uly (30:30.507)
It is, but it's...

Burnx23 (30:50.558)
sucks to suck. And that is why the villains changed in Dark Phoenix. It was when Fox and Marvel had beef and a lot of things that Fox wanted to introduce in Dark Phoenix to make it work. Marvel was like, nah, y'all don't got that. And then to make it worse, you had some of the actors and actresses in the X-Men franchise for those movies. That was like, y'all, not doing this. Like, I'm tired of this. Kill my character off. And now...

Gregory (30:51.427)
Yeah.

Gregory (31:05.997)
Marvel wasn't having it.

Burnx23 (31:19.842)
you end up getting killed with splinters.

Gregory (31:24.161)
Yeah, so yeah, it's an issue because usually by the, you know, third game, unless unless it's Devil May Cry, that's where it took a weird. That's where it went backwards.

Burnx23 (31:36.278)
Weird spin. Devil May Cry is one of the weirdest game series to do this. First one, gem. Second one, people hate the hell out of. Third one, most people don't even look back at the first and second one.

Gregory (31:50.382)
also think too that people don't like Devil May Cry 2. I know we're kind of going off in a tangent, but it does play in what we're talking about. But I think people get upset with Devil May Cry 2 most of the time they're talking about the gameplay. But I'm like, OK, I get it. Gameplay. Was the story bad?

Burnx23 (32:07.714)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was. I played every Dumb and Made Cry multiple times. Yes, it was.

Gregory (32:12.195)
And see, I've seen it split down the middle where some people are like, no, the story wasn't bad. The gameplay was bad. And some people are like, no, the story was trash. The gameplay was trash. It was just trash.

Uly (32:14.988)
I can't say.

Burnx23 (32:25.314)
I won't say the gameplay was trash. The problem with Devil May Cry 2, again, we know we're going to interchange it, however, it will lead back to the main point. The problem with Devil May Cry 2 is you can literally use the guns and go through whole game with ease, right? Devil May Cry 2 did a very good thing at the end that didn't get addressed at first, and then it got retconned, and then it got addressed afterwards, because originally,

Fun fact, people, May Cry 4 took place before Devil May Cry 2, originally. And then Capcom, right before they dropped five, was like, nah, Devil May Cry 4 takes place afterwards. Dante came out of hell. Huh? When was this? I got questions. When did he get out of hell? Where was the cookies? Where was the sandwiches? When did this happen? Right?

Gregory (33:09.123)
Win.

Gregory (33:16.355)
You

Gregory (33:19.959)
was pretty clear that he was gonna be there for a while. And then it's kind of funny because in five, gets, yeah, five addresses it then he winds up getting locked up again. Yeah, so it's like, okay, so is this gonna be our new thing? Like, don't get me wrong, I love Devil May Cry 5. I love Devil May Cry 4. I love the series as a whole.

Burnx23 (33:26.068)
addresses it.

Burnx23 (33:31.744)
Back in hell.

Burnx23 (33:41.186)
part of that renaissance, an absolute gem.

Gregory (33:44.833)
I do think, and this breaks my heart to even say, but I do think the series would benefit by ending it with the sixth game.

Burnx23 (33:55.97)
Yeah, I agree. Hell, you could technically end it with five.

Gregory (33:56.885)
and letting

Gregory (34:01.496)
I mean, yeah, you could, you could. I mean, yeah, if you've beaten five, it could just end that way. But I know because let's be honest, the fan favorites are Virgil and Dante. So people are going to want a conclusion, a true conclusion to their story at least. And if you wanted to do spinoffs, that's fine. But you have to let Virgil and Dante

Burnx23 (34:01.908)
You're not gonna like it, but you can end it with five.

Burnx23 (34:23.35)
Mm-hmm.

Gregory (34:31.244)
go. Let them go. Let them go. Like, you know.

Burnx23 (34:33.952)
No, no, absolutely not. Nope. I don't even know why you said that. Why did you fix your lips to even say such things, No.

Uly (34:35.992)
They can't. They can't. They will never do that.

Gregory (34:43.16)
because I know people struggle with letting characters go.

Burnx23 (34:47.734)
Yeah, I know. yeah, let- no. Absolutely not. This isn't- nevermind, I can't say that. That was gonna be dark. I cannot say that.

Gregory (34:50.254)
We got to let go sometimes people. We got to let them go.

Uly (34:55.422)
Hahaha!

Gregory (34:58.02)
I know I'm stirring a pot here. I know I'm stirring a pie. Like I said, it would break my heart as well. The day they finally say devil may cry is done. And I'll be like, no Blake, but you said, I know what I said. I know what I said.

Uly (34:59.214)
you

Burnx23 (35:11.104)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Uly (35:11.662)
No man, still, it's gonna be sad because you never know when one of these games come out is the last one of that series. Even though they could continue it. They could be like, well we're just scrapping it.

Gregory (35:20.44)
I think the only series you can have a predictive ending to is God of War. If you know how many mythologies are out there that they could use, you could get a guesstimation of when God of War would probably come to an end. Yeah, God of War Japan, when I saw that, that was finally official. I was like, here we go. Let's do this.

Burnx23 (35:20.716)
Yeah.

Burnx23 (35:35.666)
So I ready for Japan.

Burnx23 (35:46.892)
Yeah. And that is a series going back to what we originally said that got better with age. Right?

Gregory (35:54.755)
Yes, it definitely has gotten better with age. It doesn't try to reinvent it. It reinvented itself, but at the same time, it's still stuck to its roots. Yeah, it's still stuck to its core while adapting to the times, while adapting to the changes of video games. didn't try to some video games try to force us to remain in that bubble that they started with. And I know a lot of

fans, they're they work in the opposite. They get upset when a dev adapts to the times looking at you, Final Fantasy community. And they're like, how dare you change the game that I came in with? And I'm like, well, if you actually do your homework, you will realize that Final Fantasy has always been limited and changed and forced to just work with the technology they had.

Burnx23 (36:34.728)
Ugh.

Burnx23 (36:45.954)
changed every game.

Uly (36:51.404)
No, no, give me back my turn based. No, give it back. Give me back my turn based.

Gregory (36:53.632)
And here's the thing, and I'm talking to you as a Final Fantasy fan myself, I'm talking to y'all Final Fantasy fans, as soon as that turn-based game comes out that Square Enix is working their ass off on, because y'all complained.

Burnx23 (36:56.364)
Screw your turnbakes!

Burnx23 (37:07.052)
Y'all are gonna hate it. Y'all are gonna hate it.

Gregory (37:08.804)
If y'all don't make that the best selling Final Fantasy in all of Final Fantasy history, I don't want to hear any of you complaining if they go back to an action based formula. This is your chance to show that all that talk isn't just talk when that game finally comes out. Sick of it.

Burnx23 (37:17.186)
I'm gonna give you a prime example of this.

Uly (37:23.308)
Hahaha

Burnx23 (37:24.608)
No, no, no, here's a prime example of that and I never really thought about it because I beat the game but I never really put two and two together because I'm not a huge fan of these types of games. Did you know Square made a Souls-like Final Fantasy?

Burnx23 (37:42.454)
They did. They did. It's like five years now or four years. strangers in paradise is a soul's like, yep, yep, I just learned that.

Gregory (37:48.804)
Not strange as a paradise.

Gregory (37:54.446)
I wasn't sure.

Burnx23 (37:58.688)
You base everything off your equipment, not off your level. You gain. If you die in certain parts of the game, you lose all that experience. You have to go back and get it right. It's a souls like, but it's a limited souls like you don't have that open range like most souls likes to do. Right. But come to find out that was their attempt at a souls like game and most people hate that game. I don't mind it. It's not a bad game.

Gregory (38:17.604)
Mm-hmm.

Gregory (38:26.168)
Yeah.

Burnx23 (38:28.418)
However, you also know I don't like Souls games. I get annoyed with them, right? Yeah, yeah, I know people are like, oh my God, you had to a skill check. No, it's just, I have a child. I don't got time to be sitting here hyper focused.

Uly (38:45.112)
We don't do that here in JZ unless your name is Daniel.

Gregory (38:45.464)
greatest.

Burnx23 (38:48.482)
Yeah, I don't got the time to be hyper fixated on a Souls game. No.

Gregory (38:54.05)
And then, know, and as a souls game enjoyer and that's played all the souls game, I also agree that you don't need every game to be a souls like game either the same way every game doesn't need to be a battle like we talked about earlier. Not every game needs to be a souls like game either. Like if you want to play a souls like game, there's already a ton out there. Knock yourself out. But that's you don't have to imitate.

Burnx23 (38:58.177)
you

Uly (39:00.053)
Enjoy your sporting in lightly.

Gregory (39:21.336)
the from soft formula for all of your games either.

Uly (39:25.624)
That is a very niche market and it only got popular. I would say with Elden Ring. It just skyrocketed. I would say Sycro actually skyrocketed.

Gregory (39:27.79)
Very niche.

Burnx23 (39:29.622)
Mm-hmm.

Burnx23 (39:35.06)
Yeah

Gregory (39:38.382)
Sekiro opened the door because it wasn't named Demon Souls Dark Souls. People knew off rip because it was in the name what it was. When Sekiro came out, they were like, it's not a Souls game because it doesn't have souls in the title. And then they got a weird awakening.

Burnx23 (39:46.082)
in Japanese mythology. In Japanese mythology.

Uly (39:49.963)
Easy.

Uly (39:55.502)
Burnx23 (39:57.096)
Nioh and Sekiro, both of those benefited from one, not having that type of name, two, being about Japanese mythology. Those two games, if people would have knew from the jump what they were, I think people still would have played them, but they would have had a lot more caution with that game. But yeah.

Gregory (39:59.887)
Yep.

Gregory (40:18.884)
Yeah, I also think people forced themselves to finishing it because at that point it was a matter of pride. It was a matter of pride at that point. They're like, oh, I already spent the money.

Burnx23 (40:25.644)
Yeah.

Yeah, literally I just learned about Strangers in Paradise being a soulslike and I beat the game and I was like, wait, this is a soulslike? ain't that about a bitch.

Uly (40:29.064)
There's no shame in saying a game beats you.

Gregory (40:38.21)
They got me. They got me.

Uly (40:38.582)
Burnx23 (40:40.994)
Like it's not a bad game, I enjoyed it, but again, I don't feel like stressing myself out with a Souls game.

Uly (40:47.512)
Not like the other two hosts, Greg here and Daniel, who's missing for a while. Miss you guys. They play the crap. He says enjoyer, but he's more of a lover because the amount of Souls-like games this guy plays is insane. amount of times I log into PlayStation, it's like Bloodborne, Code Vein, Elden Ring. I'm like, this guy doesn't play any of the games.

Burnx23 (41:03.596)
Yeah.

Gregory (41:10.18)
You

Burnx23 (41:10.754)
The amount of souls games he has tried to convince me to play that I was like

Uly (41:18.786)
the conversation we're playing we're playing monster hunter and like mid hunt is like hey Ty you should play bloodborne with me and then continue hunting the monster

Burnx23 (41:19.156)
And he has tried.

Burnx23 (41:25.57)
No, absolutely not. refuse. No, here's the thing. I have played Bloodborne. He knows I've played Bloodborne. He knows how far I've gotten Bloodborne. For those wondering, it's pretty goddamn far. Never stressing myself out like that again. He saw me go through Demon's Souls from beginning to end.

Gregory (41:49.135)
Demon. Demon Souls was demons souls was my first souls souls game like when it came out and I bought it on a whim because I went to at the time, EB games and I was just looking for something for my PS3. I didn't care what it was. I this is what part of the joy of physical copies.

Burnx23 (41:49.206)
I was an alcoholic at the time.

Uly (41:51.02)
Hahaha

Burnx23 (42:01.452)
Mm-hmm.

Gregory (42:16.216)
Did the cover art catch my attention enough for me to read the back of it to see if it appealed to me that part of window shopping as a gamer and Demon's Souls caught my attention. And at the time I was like, I wanted to test my metal as a gamer. My first year, that game walked me. I had to put it on the shelf. I was like, I can't do it. I'm never going to beat this game. And then I read an article.

Burnx23 (42:21.878)
Yes.

Burnx23 (42:38.092)
Yeah, I remember.

Gregory (42:45.314)
where it was like, think it was based on Japan and they were like, they use Demon's Souls as the bar at the time for who could call themselves a hardcore gamer. And they were like, since so few have beaten this game, this is the standard to be able to call yourself a hardcore gamer. And then at that point, it was a matter of pride. I was like, my pride is on the line here. I need to beat this game.

Burnx23 (43:11.168)
I'm never getting bullied and beaten the game ever again. Never, never again. I'm never getting bullied like that ever again.

Gregory (43:17.75)
Now I don't. Now I'm older. don't. I'm like, I got my my my crown years ago. I'm good. That was my my peak at that moment. At this point.

Burnx23 (43:24.226)
Mm-hmm.

Burnx23 (43:28.598)
Yeah, no, I've been bullied by two games and it was that and Bloodborne and never again.

Gregory (43:33.4)
Yeah.

Uly (43:33.806)
What about Armored Core? Weren't you into Armored Core?

Burnx23 (43:36.17)
I love Armored Core. Armored Core sounds so like... Armored Core is a mech.

Gregory (43:37.25)
Well, he loves mech games.

Uly (43:39.022)
Yeah, mech games, yeah, but still same. Okay, there we go.

Burnx23 (43:41.996)
Yeah, I'll play anything with a giant robot, bro. Anything. Yeah, it don't matter.

Gregory (43:45.624)
But to be fair, Ebis was bullying all of us.

Uly (43:48.423)
Hahaha

Burnx23 (43:48.736)
Yeah, I know. I know. I remember.

Gregory (43:50.469)
Yeah, I think that that was more personal pride than proving anything. And for me, I just wanted to, yeah, I just wanted to prove to myself that I could get the true ending in Armour Corps.

Burnx23 (43:55.18)
Mm-mm.

No, I have every on record game.

Burnx23 (44:07.582)
Yeah, no, if it's a giant mech, I almost guarantee you unless it's mech warrior, that's the only rare exception to this. If it's a giant mech, then it gains.

Gregory (44:15.854)
I'm glad you added it in because you know, you know, Daniel was going to be like, excuse me.

Burnx23 (44:20.704)
Yeah, I know in eat a baguette. You know what I mean? unless it's like Mac warrior, anything else with a giant robot, I'm going to put my hands on at least once at the very least once, right? PS three era. There was a dynasty warriors gun to series and I bought every last one of

Uly (44:20.853)
Hahaha

I'm

Uly (44:45.716)
I loved it. Those games are so fun.

Burnx23 (44:48.628)
when the they had a Gundam Battle Royale game, not Battle Royale. They had that Gundam Hero shooter game. I got that and I was so upset when they went out of business. Yeah, anything with a giant robot. sign me up. There is a game called Super Robot Century. Another Century Void or what was it?

Gregory (45:15.172)
Another centuries episode.

Burnx23 (45:17.918)
Yeah, that's what it was on the PS3. I literally didn't understand a single word said in that game because I bought the I bought it in Japan. It only came out in Japan. I literally went out of my way to go on YouTube to find translated dialogue for that game to play it again. Sucker for giant robots. Give me a Mac and watch me go. yeah, that's what it was.

Gregory (45:25.572)
We bought it at the same time. Yep.

Gregory (45:42.201)
Another centuries episode are that's what it was. Yeah. Yeah. Because we both we we both have the desk because he convinced me to get it. And I hadn't gotten into met games that much. But that was one of the openers. And then I got an armor core and follow suit from there, which, by the way, when you I keep forgetting to mention this to you. But another sleeper met game that actually is really, really good. Megaton Musashi Wired, if you ever catch it on sale. Really good. Super slept on.

Burnx23 (46:08.61)
Yeah, I've heard. I've heard.

Gregory (46:12.168)
super slept on. I love that game.

Burnx23 (46:12.518)
Mm-hmm Why you think I might what the hell you thought It was just announced diamond no, I felt like I'm saying

Uly (46:24.622)
Burnx23 (46:25.122)
Starts with a D.

Gregory (46:28.216)
Not the Daemon Machina?

Uly (46:29.975)
No, no.

Burnx23 (46:30.523)
damn it, might be it.

Uly (46:33.486)
Is it? Because I there was two games that had mechs in them. I forgot the other one. The MMO one, right?

Burnx23 (46:37.824)
Yeah, there's two games.

Uly (46:43.966)
God, what's the name of it?

Burnx23 (46:44.514)
Like I said, I will.

Gregory (46:44.77)
I was going to say the only MMO that I could think of that came out but actually people were a little disappointed was Mecha Break.

Burnx23 (46:53.036)
Yeah, so.

Burnx23 (46:57.698)
I am disappointed in it, however, more so my disappointment lies in the abusive battle pass system. And it's like, all right, cool, you're not a bad game. You're not a bad game. It's just, it's not what I expected. And I was just like, no, I'm cool on this. I'm not gonna do this.

Gregory (47:19.842)
Yeah, don't don't do it. Don't do it to yourself if you can avoid it. After that, I was like, I think I'll give it a year before I give it a try. I downloaded it. I haven't played it. I'll give it a year to see where it's sitting at because Sinduality let me down and I was a huge fan of the anime.

Uly (47:20.782)
See you.

Gregory (47:40.645)
And send duality let me down so bad. And I'm like, and Bandai Namco has been kind of like on an upward, you know, they've been they've been doing good, but it seems like they put out send duality and then they kind of they didn't abandon it, but they're not listening to the community. And a lot of people have been saying you've got to adjust the PVP aspect because the only benefit is if you're a PVP player.

Burnx23 (48:00.949)
No.

Uly (48:02.541)
No.

Uly (48:07.768)
can't find the name.

Gregory (48:10.672)
And there's people that are, you know, ganging up on casual players. And if you're playing for the PVE aspect, you're not equipped to deal with. PVP and these players know that and you're doing all the, you know, mining and extracting and playing it like you would casually.

Burnx23 (48:21.57)
PvP

Gregory (48:32.888)
And then you just get sniped from somewhere halfway across the map by this PVP player and then just come and take all yourself and love it. Well, you know, it's an extraction. Yes. But the thing is, the imbalance is so massive. And people have utilized the mechanics in unintended ways.

Burnx23 (48:51.298)
Right.

Gregory (48:52.994)
So yeah, Sinduality, that broke my heart because I had such high hopes for that game, such high hopes. Gamescom gave me hope.

Uly (49:04.93)
Hollow Knight silk song better come out this year. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired Tired of waiting. I'm tired of you announcing something Jesus Christ, dude every time every year. It's like we have a new trailer cool soon. How soon soon It says this. Yeah. Okay, cool else I'll believe it when it comes out when I have the download ready

Gregory (49:07.812)
Yeah, it's like he wanted us to date.

Burnx23 (49:08.097)
Hmm.

Gregory (49:12.972)
It's this year, It's this year.

Gregory (49:21.026)
Yeah, this year. This year, man. This year.

Burnx23 (49:27.906)
I started playing my home subway games like that.

Gregory (49:31.254)
Yeah, they said at a Gamescom, man, they said this year for sure.

Uly (49:31.67)
I can't. This here is in, yeah. Can we talk about the biggest disappointment though? I don't know how people got high.

Burnx23 (49:34.434)
Mm-hmm.

Burnx23 (49:38.018)
Let's go,

Gregory (49:40.184)
Black, Black Ops? Black Ops 7?

Burnx23 (49:40.502)
No.

Uly (49:41.848)
Yeah, yeah, many I've seen have you remember we watched a trailer together. We both were like, why is it boring? Why is it when it comes to this usually their trailers are hot it was

Burnx23 (49:47.436)
Mm-hmm.

Gregory (49:49.238)
It was so underwhelming.

Burnx23 (49:53.91)
don't want to say boring. I don't necessarily want to say boring. It's-

Gregory (49:59.027)
Underwhelming? Predictable?

Burnx23 (50:01.219)
Underwhelming would be a good choice of words. Like I told y'all when we were texting, I was like, this just feels like advanced warfare with updated graphics.

And like, yeah, I get it. Advanced Warfare ended up finding its niche and people loved it. The problem is Advanced Warfare was new and fresh and no one expected it. Everybody kind of was just like, we were asking y'all for a direct sequel to Black Ops 2 13 years ago.

Why now? We know why now because, you know, they're trying to get money and they don't want to do anything innovative because, well, hey, let's face facts. We just dropped all this money on Hackdivision. We need this profit back.

I feel like people need to come to terms that Black Ops 6 was a failed experiment.

and that Black Ops 7 was really what they wanted to drop, but they didn't know how to do it, and they wanted to see if 6 would've worked. And the fact that 6 didn't get the hype that they were so used to, it's now like, all right, cool, scramble, let's figure out what the fuck to do.

Gregory (51:27.129)
Yeah.

Burnx23 (51:28.364)
Cause when's the last time you've seen COD do back to back the same series? Modern Warfare 2, Modern Warfare 3, right? And only reason why they did it like that, cause originally Modern Warfare 2 was supposed to be a two year long update. Not the one year. And then they got shady and they were like, all right, this is now a new game. Modern Warfare 3.

Uly (51:28.504)
job and then

Uly (51:37.602)
My war friend.

Gregory (51:54.061)
Yeah, I was going to say they they pulled the destiny and they split to basically not in half, but like the latter what could have just been a DLC and then sold it as a completely brand new game. They were like, well, Bungee got away with it so we can get away with it.

Burnx23 (52:04.055)
Mm-hmm.

Burnx23 (52:07.446)
Mm-hmm.

Uly (52:13.016)
No

Burnx23 (52:13.515)
And it did not.

Gregory (52:14.988)
Yeah, it yeah, they're still getting joked on to this day about it. But yeah, but what games did you guys see a games com that you excited for? We listed some of our favorites, so you'd love to hear what you guys are looking forward to. And what do you have up for potential game of the year this year? It's going to be I think this game game award show is actually going to be really interesting because so many games.

Burnx23 (52:42.746)
no, it's gonna piss people off. It's gonna piss people off, because it's gonna be a single player game. It's gonna piss people off.

Gregory (52:44.132)
Yeah, oh yeah, it's cool, it's yeah.

Uly (52:44.563)
yeah, yeah. I'm gonna tell you guys right now, if it's not clear obscure, then we lost.

Burnx23 (52:53.29)
I don't want to say it's clear obscure yet. There's a reason and you will see why in a couple of months. There's two games I think that might get clear obscure.

Uly (52:58.296)
That I know what, yeah, but I'm just gonna say.

Gregory (53:06.596)
Clear up scare comes out very, strong, but it seems like a lot of devs were sitting on their golden egg to the last minute. And now, yeah. And now they're throwing it all out there. So it's going to be it's it's going to be probably one of the craziest game awards in the last few years, one that actually will be worth watching.

Uly (53:06.85)
It's

Burnx23 (53:15.042)
It's a fourth quarter. It's a third or fourth quarter.

Uly (53:23.406)
It's gonna be a blood bath.

Burnx23 (53:27.35)
because I could see Ghost of Yote sneaking up and doing something that a lot of people did not expect.

Gregory (53:35.128)
Yeah, for sure. For sure.

Burnx23 (53:37.196)
And then there's Nintendo doing what they do every time and they're gonna drop something that was a silent little banger. Even how people are claiming it's Donkey Kong.

Gregory (53:47.436)
Yeah, no, Nintendo is going to do something like they did with the Mario game. Yeah, the Metroid, if they drop Metroid at the last second, that could be the turner for them.

Uly (53:51.084)
Metroid Prime 4.

Uly (53:58.607)
They announced it this year. I'm like, all right, cool. I'll believe it when I see it.

Burnx23 (54:03.532)
And that's what I'm saying. Like I don't want to necessarily say it's going to be clear obscure, even though that has been my favorite game of this year.

I can literally see, hey, these two sleepers just came out. Good luck, have fun.

Gregory (54:22.36)
I would say though to Sanfall, if they are able to make it to the finals, even if they don't win, that's a huge pat on their back. Huge pat. Like, they're really amazing.

Burnx23 (54:30.474)
Yeah.

Uly (54:31.618)
huge.

You guys are on the list for game of the year.

Burnx23 (54:35.488)
I think they got RPG of the year though. I do think they have RPG.

Gregory (54:38.114)
I think, yeah, I think they could, I think they can say that comfortably. And definitely in the musical score, I don't see anyone beating them.

Burnx23 (54:46.528)
They're probably gonna get RPG in a year unless Final Fantasy Tactics.

The amount of people that don't know about tactics.

Gregory (54:54.966)
And you know, it sucks because Elden Ring opened the door for Elden Ring and Resident Evil opened the door for remasters and stuff like that to yeah, to be nominated. Otherwise, tactics wouldn't have even been like it wouldn't even be allowed.

Uly (55:04.578)
DLCs.

Burnx23 (55:05.473)
Mm-hmm.

Burnx23 (55:13.706)
get what you're saying, but I also think that tactics, because of how long it's been and that weird gap and stretch between the two, that a lot of people never played tactics. I genuinely feel a lot of people never touch tactics. And then with games like, yeah.

Gregory (55:24.58)
20 years.

Gregory (55:36.494)
Cause that came out when we were kids.

Burnx23 (55:40.896)
with games like Unicorn Overlord and stuff like that, with those type of strategy games, I feel like Final Fantasy Tactics is about to have a field day. So I can honestly see a lot of struggle with RPG. I still think Claire has it, but I do see potentially, this came out of nowhere. this is, and then.

Uly (55:45.207)
strategy.

Gregory (55:51.544)
Yeah, I could see that.

Burnx23 (56:08.286)
Next thing you know, Final Fantasy is the one that snuck up in there. And don't let Perk Atlas drop a persona.

Gregory (56:11.492)
Yeah, so.

Uly (56:11.942)
Next thing you know, Monster Hunter Wild Twins out of nowhere. That would throw me.

Gregory (56:15.46)
That would be crazy. That would be crazy.

Burnx23 (56:16.96)
Don't let Atlas drop persona.

Gregory (56:20.248)
But so many games coming out and we covered a lot in this episode. We talked about,

Uly (56:25.388)
Yeah, I can't wait for persona 5 version 2 or something. What was that comment I read? my god, what was that comment? Someone said is like I hope they announce persona 5 too. I'm like wait what? How does that how does that work? How does that work?

Gregory (56:28.393)
my goodness, the comments that were on that, it was ridiculous. It was ridiculous. People just.

Gregory (56:35.852)
Yeah, it doesn't even make sense. It doesn't even make sense. But guys, thank you so much for tuning in. What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts on Battlefield six? Do agree with the streamers? Do you not agree with the streamers? What are your thoughts on games? Calm. Are there any games you're looking forward to? Let us know in the comments if you check this out on YouTube or check. Hit us up on the website. GZ Chop Shop podcast dot com to share your thoughts and make sure to check out our past episodes. We've had some amazing interviews with people in the gaming industry that

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Burnx23 (57:29.324)
can't

Gregory (57:34.948)
Anyway, we're out of here. Take care of yourself and each other, and we'll catch all you amazing people on the next podcast.

Uly (57:41.739)
Daniel.