Gaming is Stacked In 2025
In this episode of the GZ Chop Shop gaming podcast, host Greg and panelists Uly and Ty discuss the latest gaming news, including the highly anticipated release of Silk Song, the surge of indie games, and upcoming horror titles. They also delve into the Nintendo Switch 2, the evolution of game controllers, and the ongoing debate about turn-based gaming in the Final Fantasy series. The conversation touches on the dating mechanics of the Persona series, excitement for upcoming releases, and the anticipation surrounding the new James Bond game.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Game Releases
05:31 Horror Games and Anticipation
08:30 Nintendo Switch 2 Discussion
11:22 Controller Features and Innovations
17:53 Nostalgia and Gaming Accessories
19:01 Borderlands Excitement
20:06 Final Fantasy Tactics and Character Discussions
21:05 Final Fantasy Popularity and Character Debates
23:02 Remakes and Game Evolution
24:43 Turn-Based vs. Action RPGs
28:30 Battlefield 6 and Multiplayer Dynamics
32:17 The Future of Gaming Preferences
36:54 Atlas Game Releases and Remakes
38:10 Persona Series and Its Impact
38:56 Controversies in Dating Mechanics
41:00 Anticipation for Upcoming Games
42:01 Excitement for Borderlands 4
43:44 Upcoming Game Releases and Expectations
46:44 The Future of James Bond Games
48:41 Nostalgia and Personal Gaming Experiences
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Gregory (00:21.068)
What is up everybody? Welcome back to another week of the GZ Chop Shop gaming podcast. I'm your host, Greg. And once again, we've got a full panel. Yuli, Ty, we are stacked. Unfortunately, Daniel screwed up again. He was supposed to be joining us this week, but he is still at work. But it's still his fault, Daniel, just so you know, this is on you.
Uly (00:37.705)
Hahaha!
Gregory (00:50.754)
But gave you two chances. He still screwed up. Can't tell time can't tell different time zones. Guys, y'all need to go and teach Daniel how to understand different times. But we are going to be talking about some games that we're currently playing some upcoming games because my goodness, it's September and the floodgates of games has opened. And actually, when we recording this silk song dropped.
Uly (00:51.041)
We gave you two chances, two chances.
Burnx23 (00:52.769)
Analog clocks everywhere, you still can't tell time.
Gregory (01:20.131)
on the day we're recording this, which was September 4th. And holy crap, it's like, how many players did you say were already planning? Half a million.
Uly (01:23.915)
Love it.
Uly (01:27.425)
Half a million, half a million right now. And we checked half a million. We're putting that steam alone.
Gregory (01:32.386)
That's all, and that's just steam. That's just steam. Like everybody's been waiting for silk song and the players have not disappointed. They, have already flooded to it.
Burnx23 (01:41.293)
Mountain Drones.
Uly (01:42.679)
dude, they crashed the store page for Steam, for what was Xbox, for PlayStation and for the Nintendo eShop. They crashed the store page for a silk song.
Burnx23 (01:46.104)
Yeah.
Gregory (01:51.406)
When's the last time a game has crashed the store?
Gregory (01:56.722)
Exactly. Was that a good break?
Uly (01:56.885)
I mean, Cyberpunk broke it.
Burnx23 (01:59.641)
I mean, did it?
Uly (02:00.735)
That wasn't a good break. wasn't it wasn't broken because people wanted the game. It was broken because the game was broken itself.
Gregory (02:06.238)
Yeah, like it was like people trying to get a refund broken.
Burnx23 (02:07.427)
Yeah, I thought it was a whole refund issue. They're like, yeah, no, this is crap.
Gregory (02:14.018)
Yeah.
Uly (02:14.037)
Yeah, that was, still a breakage issue, just not a positive one.
Gregory (02:18.136)
So like, you know, this is, and this is where people were saying, and we talked about it too, you know, we have a special place in our heart for Expedition 33, Clare Obscura. And, you know, for us, we were, at first we were like, okay, this might be a shoe and this might be game of the year. And a lot of people were saying, you know, it isn't over yet. And these devs were like, hey, we're, don't count us out. We still got some games coming. And wow. Like,
Burnx23 (02:18.158)
Yeah
Gregory (02:46.254)
When games come hit, we were kind of like, oh, oh, yeah, the end of the year is going to be a slug fest because now you've got so song and you know they're going to win. They're going to win an awards of some sort, like just half a million players. Day one. That's insane.
Burnx23 (03:02.425)
Yeah. Well, also like the sheer fact that we have a bunch of indie, one indie devs, two classic style, metroidvanias or beat em ups just coming out in droves the way they are. And people are actually hyped for these type of games like, um, Shinobi just came out. it Shinobi? Yeah, Shinobi.
Gregory (03:21.293)
Yeah.
Uly (03:31.009)
It's Shinobi.
Burnx23 (03:32.223)
just came out and people are hyping that up. The Marvel has that beat-em-up coming out at the end of the year that people are talking about.
Gregory (03:45.17)
Marvel has been sneaking in some games too because I guess they kind of were like, look, everyone's getting movie exhaustion. Let's go to the other ecosystem. Let's go where the gamers are. Because they got Tocon coming in the hopeful near future.
Burnx23 (04:03.299)
Tokens probably next year, Cosmic Invasion is labeled for this year.
Gregory (04:07.95)
And that's crazy.
Uly (04:08.097)
What about the secret release of Daredevil? From Rivals?
Burnx23 (04:14.045)
yeah, that I'm saying. yeah, yeah, we have Daredevil now. Cool. What's the catch? It's Beast Daredevil.
Uly (04:23.169)
Go for it go for it
Burnx23 (04:23.673)
Let me nerd out for a second. Please. Let me just nerd out for a second. So for those that don't know or don't really care about comic books, Beast Air Devil is Matt Murdock possessed by a demonic entity that while he was in control of the hand, that demonic entity gave him so much power that he ended up taking over Hell's Kitchen and doing a lot of whole lot of things.
Gregory (04:25.006)
You
Burnx23 (04:53.429)
It is the main premise of the Shadowlands storyline and is one of my favorite daredevil comic books. However, I don't know how this man is gonna play in Arrivals, but I am excited. Someone made a joke, they're like, so you picked Matt and next thing you the screen's just black until he does his ultimate.
Gregory (05:10.702)
I was just thinking that I was like, how are they gonna play? Like you just get a black screen that just has pulses every now and then. Like you just.
Uly (05:11.889)
Hahaha
Uly (05:18.113)
Just that pull the red pulse that you see in those edited videos of him. That would be pretty cool though. That'd be a cool way to see it.
Gregory (05:21.644)
Yeah.
Gregory (05:25.56)
But I wonder what made them pick Beast version.
Uly (05:30.337)
Probably because to make him seem overpowered. Yeah, like everyone's overpowered You got to pick an overpowered version of that character
Burnx23 (05:31.609)
because he's a monster. Overpowered monster.
Gregory (05:35.416)
Yeah.
I guess if you drop Phoenix, you got to drop the OP versions of every subsequent character after that.
Uly (05:46.389)
that
Burnx23 (05:46.423)
I mean, Marvel is doing good things, per se. Like, I'm excited for Marvel zombies, mainly because of Blade. Rivals... I mean, I'll play it.
Uly (05:56.993)
that blade scene didn't.
Gregory (06:01.954)
Yeah, and then I mean just but for the rest of this month, you know the horror fans We're eating we're getting appetizers even before October
Burnx23 (06:08.729)
Cut.
Uly (06:09.345)
So good.
Burnx23 (06:11.865)
Hmm
Uly (06:12.065)
So we got Silent Hill Ev coming out. I already got it pre-ordered. I'm excited for it.
Gregory (06:16.44)
Yeah. And Silent Hill F like they pretty much have like they're like, this is the one game you are not going to be able to compare to Silent Hill to Silent Hill one. This is going to be its own thing and it's going to traumatize you. And I'm like, I'm like, great. Perfect.
Burnx23 (06:28.067)
Hmm.
Uly (06:29.035)
Perfect. Do it.
Burnx23 (06:31.929)
Oh, that is terrifying. That is going to traumatize you. What the f- What you mean, terrify me? Listen, I'm for it. As long as it's not first person. I'm for it.
Gregory (06:35.446)
Yeah.
Uly (06:36.309)
Yeah. Yeah, perfect. Perfect. know.
Gregory (06:45.112)
So what you're saying is you can play this one because it is not first person, it's third person.
Uly (06:48.619)
Third person.
Burnx23 (06:49.111)
Yeah, but you know I play Silent Hill games. just-
For a while I couldn't play horror games. Why? You know why. I mean, can now.
Gregory (06:57.986)
But you can now, right? So we, okay. So everyone, everyone can help me convince him to play Silent Hill F so we can talk about it. So we could talk about it.
Burnx23 (07:09.561)
The plan isn't the issue, it's I gotta buy it first. And yeah, you know my priorities right now. Huh?
Uly (07:13.697)
You guys already picked out your one game for September. As already as already picked out your one game for September and you. You can wait the next one.
Gregory (07:16.492)
Yeah. It doesn't have to be for September. could be October, you know. That's but that's the thing too. This year is rough on the wallet.
Burnx23 (07:23.865)
I mean, I say I'm gonna get one game in September because I'm trying to like be a responsible adult, but.
Gregory (07:30.742)
And this year is making it really hard because it had to be the end. It had to be quarter four that everyone brought out the heavy hitting games. You got Battlefield six. You got silk song. You've got Metroid.
Burnx23 (07:38.937)
Yeah.
Uly (07:44.787)
let's not add silk song to that because it's still a $20 game. You can add that no matter what. It's only 20 fucking dollars. it's 20 fucking dollars. It's so good worth it. So goddamn worth it.
Gregory (07:53.613)
It is! It is!
Burnx23 (07:54.198)
No, we're past the mark. We're past that time. Yep. No, no, I've been following the timer. Yep. Nope. So for everybody wondering what the Jokey Jokey is, we were told to refrain from using adult language for at least three to five minutes. We're at eight minutes.
Gregory (08:14.53)
You know, anyone who works on YouTube that deals with YouTube and how the ad system works, you guys understand.
Uly (08:14.687)
and
Burnx23 (08:19.501)
They know. They know.
Uly (08:21.729)
I will defend silk song in the fact that it's $20 like you can get $20 you 60 to $70 now 60 to $70 I It's what is I know the joke I know there's plenty of jokes But 60 and 70 dollars is is a lot harder than 25
Burnx23 (08:28.505)
There's a joke in there somewhere, but I'm not gonna say it because if I say it, it's bad taste.
Gregory (08:35.758)
It's gonna get it's this is gonna be a whole different episode
Burnx23 (08:41.261)
Yep, nope, you know, no, I am trying to be a fank.
Gregory (08:46.476)
You are not making it better, you're like.
Burnx23 (08:48.621)
I'm not, I'm not. He is digging that hole.
Gregory (08:51.366)
Just dig in that hole. But yeah, I had because I was telling you guys, said my wishlist for games was disgusting. I had Kronos on my wishlist. I got Silent Hill, Borderlands. And, know, that was just the ones off the top of my head. And then I turn around and I'm going to tell myself here. I got myself a switch to now you guys are probably thinking, ha ha. And I'm like, now, hold on. Well, hold on.
Uly (08:51.649)
I'm gonna leave it
Burnx23 (09:04.151)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Uly (09:18.421)
Welcome to the failures.
Gregory (09:21.312)
My views from the first time still remain the same and I can solidify that now that I have hands on. Is it enjoyable? Yes. I haven't had a Nintendo console that hasn't been enjoyable, but that's why they're the nostalgia kings. And the thing about Nintendo consoles, the console itself is part of the entertainment because there's always a gimmick with their consoles. So the console itself is part of the gimmick.
Burnx23 (09:31.839)
Is it worth the price point?
Burnx23 (09:43.523)
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Gregory (09:49.655)
And it's an enjoy. It feels good to play. The screen is amazing. But Nintendo has. But Nintendo has done the same thing that we got on Sony for that we got on Xbox for that all three of them do, and it ticks me off. They released the hardware before they have any games to populate it. And a lot of people like others playing games. You got Donkey Kong, you got Mario Kart and you got.
Burnx23 (09:53.944)
these two brag about their spritz-toes on broke.
Uly (09:56.978)
Hahaha
Gregory (10:18.702)
What else do you have? Everything else is pretty much an upgrade. You're still playing the games from the Switch One on your Switch Two. They just run better.
Burnx23 (10:27.449)
Not even, not even that. My beef is still my beef with this whole system, right? You released a PS4 in 2025 and are charging people four to $500 for said PS4 in 2025. The only perk to it is you can walk around with it, right?
Not a knock on Nintendo, but it is a knock on Nintendo. Like eventually I'm gonna get it, my stubbornness is outweighing anything else with it. That, and I know who's gonna take it if I buy one right now. I know exactly who's gonna grab it. Like, ooh, give me. Like, Stardew Valley. Oh, God damn it.
Gregory (11:11.47)
It's gonna be snatched right out your hands.
Uly (11:17.788)
Hahaha
Gregory (11:19.266)
Now, I will give Nintendo credit that they've got some good games coming up. And the Switch two store is, in my personal opinion, the better of the three stores. I like it even better than the PlayStation store. How they present their games is really good. How they do pre-orders. PlayStation could learn something from Nintendo in this regard to how they do pre-orders. Everyone else is like.
Burnx23 (11:45.947)
I'll make you drop everything all at once.
Gregory (11:48.032)
Yeah, they're like pay up front right here right now. And Nintendo's like, no, we won't charge you until the week before the game is supposed to be released.
Burnx23 (11:57.306)
But Nintendo's always been like that with pre-orders. Cause I went through that with Band Net 3 when I pre-ordered Band Netta. I went through that with a couple other games that I pre-ordered on my original Switch. They're like, hey, pre-order now, cool. That's fine. Just make sure you have our money. A week prior. And then if somehow some way you ain't give us our money.
Gregory (12:18.829)
like a week before.
Gregory (12:27.138)
you don't get a game.
Burnx23 (12:27.609)
You can play the game for a little bit, but then it delisted off your shit.
Gregory (12:32.014)
Yep. See, and I bought mostly physical games with my original Switch, so I didn't deal with their pre-order system in the store to like, well, actually never. Because most of my Switch games are physical because that's my thing with Nintendo. I kind of collected their games.
Burnx23 (12:51.019)
Remember where I live.
Gregory (12:53.036)
That's true. Yeah, you had to do digital because you were in a whole different country. You were on an island.
Burnx23 (12:54.425)
Yeah.
Burnx23 (13:00.566)
Yeah.
very, very, very small.
Gregory (13:05.518)
But I will say like the the it was kind of funny too, because I was playing yesterday with with my girlfriend and I told her to try the mouse gimmick and she immediately thought she wasn't going to like it. So, you know, I handed her control. I was like, try to use the mouse. Just, you know, put it on your lap. And she's like, well, I don't think it's going to work. That works really well. And I was like, I was like, yeah, I mean, I don't know what I'm going to use it for. I know they've listed one game for it, but at least we know it works. That's cool.
Uly (13:35.425)
How many games would actually use that feature? How many games actually use a lot of the features they have? Remember how PlayStation came out with all these controller features? And yeah, yeah, and how many games actually used it?
Gregory (13:43.086)
the six axis from the PS3.
Gregory (13:48.45)
and the Kinect for the Xbox.
Burnx23 (13:49.197)
The first year a lot of games did use it, to be fair. The first year of the console, a lot of games used it, effectively.
Uly (13:57.387)
Try to use it.
Gregory (13:57.709)
people hate. So here's the thing. I don't think it's that they don't use it. It's that the player base doesn't use it when they hate it because there was a game. Ty, you probably know the name of the game, the Dragon game on the PS3 that used the six axis as its main control scheme. Yeah, it was like I can't remember the name of it.
Burnx23 (14:03.545)
hate.
Uly (14:11.594)
I know what you're talking about. That's how you flow the dragons and everything
Burnx23 (14:20.941)
You know how generic of explanation you're giving?
Gregory (14:23.53)
It's the only game that was a dragon game that used the six axis for the PS3, like how you flew and did everything was through the six axis. But people hated it. And the game didn't do well because people didn't want to. They didn't want to use the six axis. They were like, give me the option to just use. What was it? Yes. Lair.
Uly (14:24.083)
It was a launch game too. It was a launch game.
Burnx23 (14:31.705)
Yeah.
Uly (14:41.427)
Layer. Layer. Layer. That's what it was. Layer. I'm like, know what it. Yeah. I remember. Yeah.
Burnx23 (14:43.875)
layer.
Gregory (14:49.368)
So outside of the rumble feature of controllers and maybe the speaker, anything that doesn't make the gamer do extra, except for Nintendo, most people aren't going to do. They're gonna be like, nope, just give me my joysticks and leave the rest of that crap out of my game. I'm not doing it.
Burnx23 (15:00.163)
Mm-hmm.
Burnx23 (15:10.649)
Yeah.
Uly (15:11.841)
You what feature did I did enjoy from the PS5 was the trigger pressure. The haptic triggers. Yeah. I do enjoy that a lot. Some games need it. You're like, all right, this feels like I'm actually firing an RPG or I'm charging up my Quasar laser in Helldivers. It feels good.
Gregory (15:17.464)
The haptic triggers. Yes, I do love the trigger pressure. I do love the trigger pressure.
Burnx23 (15:33.101)
I can tell you now where that gets really, really tricky is because I'm a bum and I have the Pro Controller and I don't use the haptic. I use the...
Uly (15:44.032)
paddles.
Burnx23 (15:45.273)
Yeah, I use paddles, so it doesn't have that. So I'm like, oh, OK. Ah, crap.
Uly (15:48.49)
No.
Gregory (15:54.755)
Yeah, I loved because that's a little bit of immersion in it. Like I said, it doesn't take the gamer extra effort. So most people probably use it by default. Like if the game has by default, they probably use unless they don't like the way it feels and then they turn it off. I'm surprised they kept the touchpad, though.
Uly (16:10.549)
Oh god, do you just remind me?
Burnx23 (16:15.991)
What on the... Switch?
Gregory (16:17.688)
For, no, on the PS5. Yeah.
Uly (16:18.923)
No, on the controller.
Burnx23 (16:20.458)
I'm not. I'm not. Because-
Uly (16:22.209)
It's useful sometimes.
Gregory (16:24.334)
They don't use it in games anymore. know Killzone, Shadowfall actually made it a thing in the game.
Burnx23 (16:25.068)
No!
Burnx23 (16:31.031)
The big reason they kept it though is for those PS3, PS2 titles that you can play on the drive. Yeah. That's your select and start button. That's why I got kept. And in certain games like, hey, this is how you pull up your map. This is how you do this. Yeah.
Gregory (16:38.83)
the streamable ones that had it, yeah.
Gregory (16:53.175)
That seems to be the default for that button now. That's like your map. It's either the left or the right side, just press it in.
Uly (16:58.859)
Well, that's how it is in Helldivers. You have to use the touchpad to guide your cruiser and the map to point things out.
Gregory (17:03.415)
Yeah.
And I don't mind like those extra features on it. And like I said, Nintendo gets away with it because they made that their gimmick when the when the Wii came out and they've just pretty much stuck with it since.
Burnx23 (17:06.158)
Mm-hmm.
Burnx23 (17:19.385)
I said they made that a gimmick since the 64. Hey look at our eccentricness. This is our controller. Worst controller ever.
Gregory (17:29.033)
the three prong, the pitch fork head.
Uly (17:30.529)
It's like you used to where's that third prong go you just shove it up your ass and that's how you play right there now legs in the air
Burnx23 (17:32.152)
Yeah.
Gregory (17:35.02)
Yeah, right up the hooha.
Burnx23 (17:38.753)
I'm just, but here's the thing that third prong all it is is what we use for a nunchuck for the Wii. That's what it was. It was the left nunchuck.
Gregory (17:50.851)
Yeah, I don't I never understood the thought process behind the N sixty four controller. It really it was the weirdest controller, but I mean, we all still played the games, we still used it. And I will say to the N sixty four was when Nintendo really leaned into making the console like.
Burnx23 (17:56.1)
Crack! Crack was a dark process.
Uly (17:59.329)
Yeah
Gregory (18:13.486)
heart toy too with the expansion pack, the rumble pack, the memory pack, like they had all like, when you think about accessories, no one beats Nintendo.
Uly (18:19.617)
collectible editions.
Burnx23 (18:22.061)
Nintendo. Every time.
Gregory (18:24.854)
I had a mega Game Boy Color. Like I was, I turned my Game Boy Color into like an unnecessary behemoth with the shock and rock that go, went on the bottom. And then the big old, yep, the magnifying glass with the speakers. It's so unnecessary. And they had a printer. They had the printer for Pokemon. So when you got your, you finished your Pokedex, you could print out your sticker to show.
Burnx23 (18:34.157)
Yeah. The magnified glass that-
Uly (18:38.699)
with the flashlight.
Burnx23 (18:40.334)
Yeah.
It vary. But did you hear? Yeah, I know.
Gregory (18:53.088)
all the friends who didn't care that you finished your Pokedex.
Uly (18:55.913)
and the camera. Don't forget you got to, this is like the first selfie you could take with the portable device.
Gregory (19:01.214)
yeah, that's right. It was, yeah. Nintendo has, they definitely cornered the market on unnecessary accessories.
Burnx23 (19:02.894)
huh. Not late.
Burnx23 (19:12.717)
Don't get me started on the DS and all you goddamn puppy killers.
Gregory (19:16.31)
You
Uly (19:16.897)
rest in peace all the nintendogs
Gregory (19:19.27)
nintendox yep yep we won't we won't talk about nintendox and go over breaking some hearts but so i know ty you and i will be on borderlands
Burnx23 (19:22.672)
R.I.P.
Burnx23 (19:29.018)
Anytime.
Burnx23 (19:35.929)
Yeah, I appreciate you about that by the way.
Uly (19:36.769)
not will.
Burnx23 (19:42.339)
Thank you for having solidarity.
Uly (19:44.693)
Hahaha
Gregory (19:47.962)
I felt so bad because Ty was like, I'm so lonely.
Burnx23 (19:51.991)
Yes, I am.
Uly (19:52.957)
said I was gonna get it now that I didn't have to pay for Silent Hill F.
Gregory (19:57.443)
Yeah, I hope it's a, yeah, see, we got a whole squad on Borderlands. And I'm not gonna lie, the closer that the release date gets, the more excited I am that I made that my pick for my main game for the, for the month.
Uly (20:09.889)
When I heard a
Burnx23 (20:09.997)
Like I said, I the developer, the particular developer, but the company itself, I appreciate. It's just one particular person I'm not a huge fan of, but hey, you know what? You may borderlands. I can't hate you too, too much.
Gregory (20:26.488)
Too too much. Now give me some free golden keys and move home.
Burnx23 (20:31.329)
I mean, they do every time. So here's exactly what's gonna happen, right? It happens every Borderlands release. You're get on Twitter, you're gonna see via Borderlands, hey, look, all these golden keys or all these diamond keys for the previous Borderlands game. And hey, yeah, here's a couple keys for the new one that's coming out. They did it with three, they did it with two, they did it with Tiny Tina's Wonderland. They do it all the time and it's just like...
Gregory (20:53.794)
They did it with three and two. Yep. You're absolutely right.
Burnx23 (21:01.209)
Alright, so now I gotta focus back on Twitter and Borderlands again. Damn it.
Uly (21:07.521)
Yeah, yeah racist post racist post Golden Key racist post racist post race Golden Key
Gregory (21:10.546)
Yeah, that's pretty much how you got to do it it's like this words with the key
Burnx23 (21:15.513)
Like, I don't know, somebody called me a monkey. Go and get me.
Uly (21:18.049)
No.
Damn it, Yuli!
Gregory (21:22.872)
But yeah, I am. And also because it's, you know, it's a classic and near and dear to my heart. I am gonna get Final Fantasy Tactics. Yeah, I am gonna get that.
Uly (21:23.894)
Hahaha
Burnx23 (21:34.681)
Yeah, at the end of the month. Yeah, end of the month. I'm going for that too.
Gregory (21:39.18)
Yeah, they said they made cloud easier to use. I don't know how people struggled with cloud originally.
Burnx23 (21:45.197)
Huh? Wait, I'm surprised they're putting Cloud back in the game.
Gregory (21:49.377)
Yeah, because they definitely were like, yeah, the war of lions stuff isn't going to be in this version. And I thought cloud was war of the lions, but maybe I'm wrong.
Burnx23 (22:02.105)
That's how I remember it. But, okay.
Gregory (22:06.286)
You know what they're probably gonna do because here's the thing.
Burnx23 (22:10.681)
Mm-hmm.
Gregory (22:12.224)
If we're just gonna call a spade a spade, a good 90 % of the Western Final Fantasy audience are all about Cloud and Sephiroth.
Burnx23 (22:22.423)
You're not going to get me to rent today.
Gregory (22:24.27)
That'll be a whole different episode if he starts on that.
Uly (22:25.153)
Do it, do it, it is all about Cloud and Sephora.
Burnx23 (22:26.231)
Not about final defense. You're not gonna get me. You're not getting me on this hill that I will die on.
Uly (22:30.247)
Everywhere you go and there's a Final Fantasy in the Western audience you could just start seeing the Sephiroth just Sephiroth and everybody knows everybody will know
Gregory (22:35.544)
Sephiroth and then you yep
Burnx23 (22:37.113)
I I know, I know, and it annoys me because most people started and only played seven and they're like, that's because it was the best one. Like, no.
Gregory (22:50.19)
I wish I had my my classic War of the Lions. I still have it, but I think it's in my my chest of all my other retro stuff. I wanted to see what the characters, the special character from other Final Fantasies were in War of the Lions, because I don't remember. And I will be very upset if they just pulled clout.
Uly (22:50.337)
And then they jump.
Uly (22:58.335)
I always want to send.
Burnx23 (23:05.537)
I don't think there was one. I think it was just cloud.
Gregory (23:09.826)
I think there was another one. I think there was another one that they added, but I can't remember. And of course, I'll have to look after the show's wrapped up and maybe I'll put it in a social media post or something. But if you guys remember, comment under the video who the characters were for War of the Lions if you do remember. But there was at least one more next to Clow that kind of was like out of place.
I just don't remember from which Final Fantasy they came from. I think it was nine. I think they took the, I think they brought the main character from nine.
Burnx23 (23:50.039)
No, it wasn't.
Burnx23 (23:54.809)
Why did I just forget his name? Holy.
Uly (23:56.469)
I was thinking of the character. What was that Final Fantasy game where they had that like water dome soccer game?
Burnx23 (24:02.489)
That was 10. Brits ball. Yep.
Gregory (24:02.574)
Oh, that was 10. What was it? Blitzball.
Uly (24:04.161)
10 that blissful. we go. Thinking of that guy.
Gregory (24:09.464)
See, this is gonna bug me now.
Burnx23 (24:09.837)
It wasn't him because was, tactics came out, Zydane, it's nine by the way. But I don't remember him being in tactics.
Gregory (24:21.934)
healthier.
Burnx23 (24:25.315)
That makes more sense.
Gregory (24:26.434)
Balthier, it was Balthier, Cloud.
and the rest pretty much belong. I was like, I knew there was another wee character other than Cloud, Balthier.
Burnx23 (24:40.777)
Awesome.
I was about to say, know it wasn't, I know it wasn't, God damn it. Damn you, Kingdom Hearts. I know it wasn't Squall or Leon, whichever one you want to call him. I know it wasn't Zidane. I knew it wasn't Titus.
Gregory (24:59.842)
Yeah, yeah, it was was was about fear. So I will be a little upset if they pulled cloud just to bolster their sales, which granted that's not their fault because they know that most of their fan base are Final Fantasy seven. Only.
Uly (25:12.033)
It's gonna work.
Burnx23 (25:15.683)
They know the audience.
Burnx23 (25:21.881)
Seven is like, seven to the west is like four to the Japan.
because 4 was the one that got all the love out in Japan. Hence why they had sequel after sequel after sequel remakes all that other stuff.
Gregory (25:37.518)
That is true. Actually, when you think about it, when we started getting all the four remakes, I was like, how many versions of four are there?
Burnx23 (25:46.026)
NES, SNES, PlayStation, DS, PSP, PS3, there's a couple others.
Gregory (25:51.096)
DS.
Gregory (25:57.581)
Yep. Yeah, because I have it on the PS3 as well.
Uly (25:59.423)
mobile. It's on Google Play, I think.
Burnx23 (26:01.421)
Yeah. Yeah. Well, all of them up to nine came out on Google.
But four is the one that kept getting remakes and updates for Japan. And then for some odd reason, well, I shouldn't say for some odd reason. I know why, but my beef with people in seven is they overhype seven for what the story is. Like it's not a bad story, but it's not this creme de la creme of a story.
Hell, look how long it took them to figure out it wasn't Aries.
Gregory (26:44.472)
Yeah. Yeah. The mistranslation.
Burnx23 (26:45.753)
It was a myth translation, yeah.
Gregory (26:52.11)
I still have my grievances too on why Cloud and Sephiroth are so popular because I'm like, you guys played seven, stopped at seven, eight literally in my opinion had the better story.
Burnx23 (26:59.789)
Big ass door.
Burnx23 (27:06.713)
8 has a better story but 8 has a confusing story and 8-
Eight plays into the whole, if you don't pay attention to every last aspect of what was being said, you're either gonna go into the very dark conspiracy theory of what actually happened to those orphans, if you didn't know a story about orphans, or it goes into that whole, time travels a bitch. It's one or the other.
Gregory (27:40.781)
Yeah. So, but yeah, I'm looking forward to that. And this is my and this just popped into my head. This is also my last personal gripe. I mentioned this. I mentioned something similar to this on the last episode, but I have a question for the Final Fantasy fans, especially the ones that were like, we love turn base. We love turn base. Then why did y'all eat up both versions of seven that that just integrate and rebirth? Y'all ate that up.
Burnx23 (28:09.497)
Okay, I will answer that in a sense. It does have a turn-based aspect to it, right? You can make it a turn-based game via the settings. And even with the action bar, like if you don't make it the weight turn-based setup in the game, you can legitimately do an attack, switch characters, do the next
attack, switch characters again, do next attack, switch characters. You can do make it turn based in some way, or form either either through the actual game mechanic itself with the weight bar or you kind of finesse it yourself, right?
Gregory (28:53.56)
So the proper thing would be is to just ask where to add a turn-based option.
Burnx23 (29:00.141)
There is a turn-based option though. Like there's.
Gregory (29:01.752)
Well, they make it sound like they've made it sound like they haven't had turned, like they're starved of turn-based.
Burnx23 (29:07.603)
No, so again, this kind of goes back to people try to like hype me some shit for nostalgia, right? Because if that was the case, Atlas would be king of RPGs right
Gregory (29:23.63)
that's always putting out some bangers.
Burnx23 (29:24.365)
Because Atlas does not deviate from its turn-based ways. Hence why Persona is still a turn-based game. Hence why Shin Megumi Tensei is still a turn-based game. why... Pick an Atlas RPG and then tell me where it's not turn-based at.
Gregory (29:43.363)
Yeah. And I love I love my atlas games and the Shinmaga. I'm a I'm a huge Shin Megami fan to something. It's the right kind of difficult. Like. Yeah, OK, sometimes, yeah, like if you play three, then yeah, not not turn is ruthless.
Burnx23 (29:55.555)
sometimes.
Sometimes. Exactly.
It's a rough, rough, rough deep dicking.
Gregory (30:07.734)
And then they do reflect that in vengeance when you have to fight the main character of three yourself. And you get worse. You get worked. But let's see. So that's like September, right? And then October. Only thing I'm thinking of right now of October is Battlefield six.
Burnx23 (30:15.647)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Burnx23 (30:20.226)
F me.
Uly (30:30.485)
Battlefield 6.
Uly (30:34.69)
It's the only one is the look. wait doesn't
Burnx23 (30:37.089)
No, it's not that. Is that y'all said it in unison. Perfect fucking unison. That's why I like couldn't keep a straight face.
Gregory (30:40.878)
Hehehehehe
Uly (30:46.473)
I'm like, I'm like that shoot. Playing it.
Plo- Fucking Daniel just had to like message me right then and there, I lost my train of thought!
Burnx23 (30:57.185)
He messaged all of us and he literally just said 7pm my time and like you ever just wanted to kick somebody and pretend they were old yeller?
Gregory (31:05.676)
Guys, if you were wondering why Daniel hasn't been around for months, it mainly is due to his work and he's been, he's actually been very, very busy, but today was supposed to be his return to the episode. However, since he's been absent so long, he forgot about time zone difference.
Burnx23 (31:24.216)
Yeah!
Uly (31:25.697)
It threw me off when I read it. I'm like it is your time. Anyway, well I was gonna say
Gregory (31:31.137)
You
Uly (31:35.265)
Okay, this guy, all right.
Gregory (31:36.182)
No!
Uly (31:38.133)
This guy anyway, what I gonna say is battlefield six brought back me and my friends being battlefield fiends Like we all squatted up and we we all had our jobs and we all did our jobs and we had a blast Win or lose we tried our best to win and it was still fun It only time it was like terrible or a slog was we couldn't capture a point That's it when you're pushed all the way back to your spawn base like that's that's terrible but but when you have like you have
Burnx23 (31:46.04)
Yeah?
Gregory (32:04.174)
That's rough.
Uly (32:07.327)
half and half and you're just fighting that one point, which has been a majority of our games. We couldn't let go. We couldn't stop playing. We're like, more, one more. Let's keep going. One more, one more. All right, let's switch it up.
Gregory (32:18.344)
And the beautiful thing about Battlefield 2 is even if you lose, you personally can win.
Uly (32:23.861)
Yeah, you can win on your own. Yeah, I'm rating it too.
Gregory (32:27.096)
Did you do your job? Did you do it well? You get points. know?
Burnx23 (32:30.307)
Mm-hmm.
Uly (32:33.761)
And like the best players aren't like The the one that was on the field doing all these trick shots and everything It's that one one chopper that could not be taken down and took down anything that would see they're like, hey ping here ping here ping here Got it. Got them boom boom boom the tank that had that one engineer on his ass keeping alive all the time Damn it Daniel. Damn it. I could I tried
Burnx23 (32:55.673)
I'm
I'm trying to keep a straight face. So y'all continue with your conversation. That's why I answered for everybody. Okay, in case anybody is wondering, right.
Uly (33:09.761)
Okay.
Burnx23 (33:16.553)
I was trying to be the nice person and let our other two hosts continue with their battlefield sex conversation while our good buddy Daniel was having a conversation with us via social media. I tried to answer. cannot repeat what I answered because then no, no, no, no, shame. But for those of you that are watching the video version of this,
Uly (33:33.05)
No!
Uly (33:39.585)
You
Burnx23 (33:45.882)
would notice the look on my face. Well, these two gentlemen are speaking of Battlefield 6 in all its glory, like how we should be because we are a daily podcast. I said something slick, and I am sorry that I took away from our wonderful conversation to interrupt this brief moment in time. Please continue.
Uly (33:53.76)
It's sh-
Gregory (33:53.838)
You
Uly (33:57.473)
You
Gregory (34:04.814)
Please continue
Uly (34:05.057)
You know, you need a brief pause.
Burnx23 (34:11.218)
you
Uly (34:12.257)
Anyway, it brought back the fun of what was missing in 2042 because people didn't like five. I enjoyed five because it still kept that battlefield feel. was just World War II and there was just a lot of things that, you know, they kind of, it wasn't that fun.
Gregory (34:24.514)
Mm.
Burnx23 (34:30.147)
But I got beef with that because so many people love to say, yo, I want to be back in Trinch Warfare. And then when they finally get the game, that's back in Trinch Warfare. Now, my God, this is so stupid, blah, blah, because they did the same thing with COD when it was like COD War 2. They're like, nah, we didn't want this. We wanted something else. Cool. So we're go back to Jetpacks.
Uly (34:52.969)
I will defend Yeah, I'll defend World War two World War two had a good story It was a fun story the the whole home base multiplayer thing where it was like a social hub and you can open Package in front of everyone that I'm like, alright, this is just load us into it. Yeah but
Burnx23 (35:05.261)
Yeah.
Burnx23 (35:09.485)
You weren't a fan of that, and I understand that.
Gregory (35:12.238)
Now being that we're we're all gamers, I want to share guys' opinion on this. Do you think this that when gamers make these, we'll call them hopes of what the next games are going to be? Do you think it's because how long development times take that by then the audience has shifted? And this is why the devs basically can't meet the gamers at that time, because we get a new game and we're like, oh, you know, like right now with Final Fantasy, clear up,
Everyone's in a turn-based hype mode. Games that have already been turn-based are starting to get a lot of love. And by the time the next Final Fantasy comes out, if they're sticking with how they want to do it, do you guys think that the whole market's gonna shift again and they're gonna be like, no, we want an action Final Fantasy or we want more.
Burnx23 (35:57.378)
No, so with Final Fantasy, yeah, with Final Fantasy specifically, I think people are still going to be on that timing where it's like, we need it to be turn-based, even though it really hasn't been turn-based since 10. To be completely serious about it, 13 had a unique system. don't like it. Yeah.
Uly (35:58.463)
I think that's very specific to Final Fantasy.
Gregory (36:22.84)
What was it the ATB system, I think is what they call it.
Burnx23 (36:27.097)
It had turn-based aspects, but it wasn't turn-based because you still move around and everything else like that There was there was caveats behind it. Um 13 wasn't like that 13 to Completely different system and then lightning returns was completely different from all of them 14 14 is 14. We're not gonna go there 14 is worth
Gregory (36:46.574)
We know we're 14. 14 is a whole different beast.
Uly (36:48.865)
I love 14, 14 is still fun.
Burnx23 (36:52.345)
15 Was it's dipping a toe into it being straight up an action RPG but it still had some little tweaks of a turn system kind of kind of Depends on what kind of magic you were using everything else like that and in 16 People hate 16th combat because my god, this is devil may cry. I was like no this was never may cry
Hoed everyone.
Gregory (37:22.154)
y'all would really hate it if it was devil may cry that's a whole different that's a whole different beast yeah
Burnx23 (37:26.027)
speed. That's a whole different tempo.
Gregory (37:29.356)
Yeah, I trust that. And we've played from both. So yeah.
Burnx23 (37:33.293)
Yeah.
Uly (37:34.709)
I think the whole turn-based thing is just based on the game of LeClerc obscured the only people say it's popular because it's turn-based now It's everything about it the music the story the gameplay it adds to it making a turn-based doesn't Doesn't do much. It just is the game that's like
Burnx23 (37:47.789)
You fit.
Burnx23 (37:55.13)
It goes back to my whole point of like if turn-based was the key point, atlas RPGs would be more popular.
Like, Metaphor is honestly its most popular RPG. Which is saying something. Yeah.
Gregory (38:10.604)
and the soundtrack played a huge part in that. And then people were like, the story's actually kind of good.
Burnx23 (38:17.143)
Yeah!
Gregory (38:18.414)
And was like, yeah, a lot of their games operate like this. Did you guys not know? And kudos to the to the gamers who have been saying that. And they were like, oh, man, this is the era of turn based games. This is what we need. And people were showing like at this games are like, what do you mean? These games have been around for years.
Burnx23 (38:33.731)
They've been like this. They've continuously been like this.
Gregory (38:38.434)
Like they, I think they drop at least one a year.
Burnx23 (38:43.513)
They do at least two atlas drops about two games every year for RPGs, right?
Burnx23 (38:55.605)
Yeah, they already dropped their two this year because it was reload.
And the remake for one of their old games. can't think of the name of it right now. But they are, you know what I'm talking about.
Gregory (39:07.892)
yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it just came out. Because he's a character that is in Shin Megami five.
Burnx23 (39:14.883)
Mm-hmm.
Burnx23 (39:22.935)
Yes.
Gregory (39:24.462)
Ugh.
Burnx23 (39:25.699)
but was also based off a older game.
Gregory (39:28.064)
Older game, yeah.
Uly (39:30.977)
Let see.
Gregory (39:31.256)
Crap, now, and it was, I saw the ads for it all the time, now I can't remember the name of it. Yes.
Uly (39:35.713)
Ray do remastered The mystery of the soulless army. Yep. That's the one and The second one was persona 5 phantom x Released in the same month Jesus
Burnx23 (39:37.741)
Yes. Yes.
Gregory (39:40.716)
Yes, that's the one.
Gregory (39:50.445)
Yeah, they tend to do that, especially when they have a very popular persona game. One thing Atlas does do, they milk it to death for years.
Burnx23 (39:50.957)
Yeah
Burnx23 (40:02.745)
There's a reason five has almost had 10 years of straight-up story.
Uly (40:04.351)
worth it though for some-
Uly (40:12.513)
What was that one that I sent you? It's like I'm gonna beat this guy up so I can sleep with my teacher and prove him wrong or something. That was fun. Yeah, for those of you who haven't played it, if any of you are confused by that, play five and you'll figure out what I mean.
Burnx23 (40:19.609)
That was love. That was love.
Gregory (40:19.992)
That's a five. That's five. Anything with sleeping with the teacher, it's probably five.
Burnx23 (40:30.711)
Yeah, no, no, that was five. shoot, I was wrong. Reloaded came out last year.
Gregory (40:32.45)
Yeah, and if you're if you don't want to play five just Yeah, just look it up on YouTube. Someone's probably done it and put it on YouTube and Defended it
Uly (40:39.849)
and defended it. And defended it.
Burnx23 (40:40.291)
here.
Gregory (40:43.534)
100%, just YouTube it if you don't wanna play the entire game and do that for yourself.
Uly (40:47.903)
Watch the four hour stream of that one story.
Burnx23 (40:48.205)
Yeah, granny, Atlas RPGs have a unique little place in my heart and I love everything about Atlas RPGs, especially the Persona series. The Confidant system is kind of where I get a little dirty. It's like, you need a girlfriend. Please no, please no. This is a team.
Gregory (40:50.699)
This
Gregory (41:11.362)
I know a lot of people have like, they've been asking for like a lot of less games to do. And I think it's just probably that they happen to pick the games that do it, but they were like, can we not have dating in the games? And I'm like, I actually have in mind because a lot of games have deviated from it.
Burnx23 (41:27.885)
Here's my problem with Atlas with that. So yeah, they do it. Yeah, it's fine. But Persona 5, Persona 5, everybody's in high school. They're on their second to last year. Cool, that's fine. Most of your choices are about your age. Cool, that's fine. Then you have three choices that are not your age, and it gets weird.
Uly (41:36.363)
But...
Gregory (41:36.536)
they definitely don't consider the Western audience when they do it.
Gregory (41:43.341)
Yeah.
Gregory (41:59.213)
Yeah.
Burnx23 (42:00.152)
You have your teacher, you have a full on doctor.
and you have your guardian's daughter who is younger than you. So I like, hey, I
Gregory (42:12.492)
Yeah, and I know I think a lot of people picked that last one.
Uly (42:18.536)
Unfortunately.
Burnx23 (42:18.633)
No, not a lot of people. There's a niche group that picks her and I'm like.
Gregory (42:24.014)
it's the case of being the louder group.
Burnx23 (42:27.051)
Yeah, they're like, ooh, Futaba's bae. Stop it. Stop it. She is 14. That is a child. You're about to be 18. Stop it.
Gregory (42:37.1)
I wondered, and you know a lot of...
Uly (42:40.449)
Don't defend it in the comments. Don't defend it in the comments.
Gregory (42:42.232)
Please don't defend it. Please don't defend it.
Burnx23 (42:42.677)
No, but yeah, please don't. But pot meat kettle, always pick the homeroom teacher. Mainly because of the perks, but it's like, she's about my age. And I think, God damn it, my character's 17.
Gregory (42:54.926)
Yeah, she's your age, not your character's age. But no, I'm wondering what Atlas has against doing a persona with an older entourage. Like they obviously introduce older characters, so why not have one with an older entourage?
Uly (42:55.009)
If you have to think about that, that's that's the thing
Burnx23 (43:02.713)
Burnx23 (43:06.713)
I'll check your phones.
Burnx23 (43:17.407)
It's been asked. It's been asked. And that is a thing that people are asking for six to be at a minimum. Let them be college students because
Cast of one, cool, you don't really see it happen. Cast of two, you don't really see it happen. Cast of three, you do see them become full on adults. And that's if you follow three all the way through all its sequels. Because fun fact for those of you that don't know, Persona 4 Arena and Persona 4 Arena Ultimax is a sequel to Persona 3, is a direct sequel to Persona 3.
that tells their story, the crew of Persona 3's Yep, yep, that's why I said don't check.
Gregory (44:10.894)
Daniel's at it again, everybody.
Uly (44:15.662)
Daniel is defending himself and he should just accept the blame.
Burnx23 (44:19.481)
Yep. But, yeah, anywho, I am excited for Borderlands 4. Damn it, Randy. Damn it.
Gregory (44:33.526)
gets us every time, man. I'm only I'll be completely honest. I'm more excited for Borderlands for not even because I'm like I'm a Borderlands fan, but it's it's it's such a fun party game. It like, yeah, like we like you're rewarded for being chaotic.
Burnx23 (44:35.053)
Yeah, I will pick.
Burnx23 (44:47.139)
friendship
Uly (44:53.227)
kinda kinda don't like the fact that we don't we don't see the salute the same loop because I just kind of like stealing my friends loot and just making fun of them. I'm like, yeah, anymore anymore anymore. They removed that because of that.
Burnx23 (45:01.663)
I mean, I don't... Anymore. You can't do it anymore.
Gregory (45:01.826)
I am so glad you can't, dude. I would hate you so much.
Burnx23 (45:09.699)
I'm so glad about that.
Gregory (45:10.914)
Yeah. Yeah. Your friend, you just walk over and see your friend just suck up that one rare gun that came out and then try to walk away like you, like you didn't just witness them take the gun.
Uly (45:19.634)
no no, this is why I don't play Apex Legends, because I do that so much that people leave mid-match.
Gregory (45:24.206)
You're done.
Uly (45:27.371)
you opened that you opened that crate yoink yoink yoink yoink
Gregory (45:30.744)
This is like a vacuum cleaner. like I said, for me, at the end of the year, I just wanted to know when's Metroid dropping? They said.
Uly (45:32.417)
You
Uly (45:41.121)
When is the Octopath Traveler Zero dropping? That's another date I want to know. That's to say that... oooh.
Gregory (45:43.714)
That's December 4th.
Burnx23 (45:45.631)
Yeah.
Gregory (45:47.757)
And then don't forget, you got for the Dragon Quest fans, you guys are getting one into I don't know why they did three first, but you're getting one and two together. That's coming out before the end of the year. Their HD remakes. So now you'll have all three of them as an HD remake. And like you mentioned, Octopath Traveler, that's in December. All of these games are coming out for the most part before the Game Awards.
Gregory (46:12.982)
So I'm like, I feel like Nintendo is going to do the same thing with Metroid, like right before the Game Awards are going to drop Metroid because they did it with Wonder.
Uly (46:13.222)
Are they trying to pull a solo leveling with a recency bias?
Burnx23 (46:21.849)
They did do that one.
Gregory (46:23.65)
They did it with wonder.
Uly (46:26.885)
They got that Metroid 4 has a lot of people behind it that is like fiending for it. And I'm one of them and I know a lot more people on this side of the hemisphere who are like fiending for it.
Gregory (46:41.974)
And even after December comes and goes, it's not over. We start 2026 pretty strong. We get in Requiem in the beginning in the first quarter. We're getting James Bond. We're getting 007 in the first quarter. They got a date for that.
Burnx23 (46:42.283)
yeah.
Burnx23 (46:54.541)
I am excited for that.
Uly (46:55.595)
That looks so fun.
Gregory (46:57.334)
Yeah, I think that's March.
Burnx23 (46:59.897)
Something like that. It's February or March.
Uly (47:01.089)
don't like that. As soon as I found out who the developers were, I'm like, it's a bag. It's a bag. no, they know how to do these kind of games. It's a bag.
Gregory (47:02.53)
So we're getting.
Yeah. And I think they're going to catch the actual essence of Bond the way the Daniel Craig movies went for it in the beginning, where he was more raw. I think I was going to actually pay homage to how Bond is in his peak. And that's that's what I want. I want the clean cut, catchy one liner, you know, Pierce Brosnan Bond anymore. Yes.
Uly (47:17.729)
before they went full on.
Burnx23 (47:17.795)
Yeah.
Uly (47:34.945)
You want the one that struggles a little bit, that gets a little roughness to it.
Burnx23 (47:36.664)
Yeah.
Gregory (47:39.37)
Right, yes. I want Bond struggling.
Burnx23 (47:43.757)
Yeah, it definitely sounds like we're getting a gritty bond and it works like it. And I'm actually like legit excited for a strong appearing first person shooter.
Gregory (47:57.871)
Yeah. um, have they dropped the, I didn't even look now. I can think of, there a rating for it already?
Uly (48:06.145)
I didn't see one in the trailer.
Burnx23 (48:06.235)
No, not that I'm aware of.
Gregory (48:08.428)
because most Bond games are rated T for Teen, and I'm holding on to hope that it's rated for Mature because it's IO Interactive.
Uly (48:13.195)
Well, I mean, if it's from them, I'm pretty, yeah, I was gonna say it's from them. It's pretty sure it's gonna be that. Let's see.
Burnx23 (48:18.851)
Yeah, they don't usually... Huh. It is currently pending a mature rating.
Uly (48:25.342)
yep, there you go.
Gregory (48:25.39)
Nice.
Burnx23 (48:26.849)
according to the Xbox store.
Gregory (48:28.502)
I may be incorrect in this, but would that be the first double O?
Burnx23 (48:31.895)
Yes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Shoot. There is GoldenEye, GoldenEye. Not GoldenEye, not GoldenEye. It was like a GoldenEye sequel.
Gregory (48:35.864)
Cause wasn't there, didn't one of the day Craig once have a rating? GoldenEye was
Uly (48:40.641)
Go learn.
Gregory (48:43.926)
the remake, the bad remake kind of, yeah, there was another golden eye.
Uly (48:53.247)
trying to figure that out is it was it. Why did you give me perfect dark?
Gregory (48:55.914)
It was GoldenEye, but they used Daniel Craig, think. Like his likeness for it.
Burnx23 (48:57.945)
No, it was 007 villain game. It was no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Gregory (49:04.494)
guys were like trying to figure this out. Rogue Agent was... Rogue Agent was...
Burnx23 (49:10.521)
I thought Rogue Agent was I could be wrong. It might have been-
Gregory (49:13.666)
I remember, cause I had Rogue Agent, but I didn't think it was Well, actually you might be right.
Uly (49:19.541)
No, it's rated T.
Burnx23 (49:21.026)
Hmm.
Gregory (49:22.188)
Yeah, it was it was the it was because you weren't the hero.
Uly (49:27.681)
Quantum of Solace T, the GoldenEye remake it looks like, Reloaded T.
Burnx23 (49:35.04)
No, this would be the first. Huh.
Gregory (49:36.376)
So this will be the first rated Dumblo7 game.
Uly (49:36.767)
Yeah, this is the first. Yeah. From Russia with love, rated T.
Gregory (49:44.054)
All right, I'm for it. Let's let's take those kitty gloves off because because let's be let's be completely honest.
Uly (49:49.941)
Let's take those kitty gloves off. It's so weird. Hold up. Hold up. I'm still confused why these aren't rated You know what? No, I'm not confused actually. I understand. You can't really do.
Gregory (49:58.64)
I mean, they wanted it. 007 games, in my personal opinion, GoldenEye, like a lot of people that played GoldenEye, probably didn't watch. They actually know the movie. Until after the game, they probably did it backwards like, yeah, now you know the movie today, but at the time you just had a first person shooter on a Nintendo 64 and we all loved it and we knew James Bond because.
Burnx23 (50:12.067)
Hmm. Yeah.
Uly (50:15.073)
That's true.
Gregory (50:27.907)
James Bond's like Star Wars. You know the name without even having to watch it. You just like, Darth Vader. I kind of know Darth Vader. James Bond. I know James Bond. That's that. That was the thing with it. So they pitched it. They started the James Bond games at a time when the people who actually knew James Bond, they weren't playing video games. The actual audience it should have been for. They weren't playing video games. Now we've grown up with.
the latter half of Pierce Brosnan and all of Daniel Craig. So we know the movies and the games. We're the audience that the next James Bond games need to cater to and IO pretty much knows that and they're like, we got you. And we all grew up with it.
Uly (51:12.667)
We all grew up with hitman We all we all grew up with hitman So it's like it you know, I it we know it's a James Bond's game But give us a little bit of that hitman flair that we you know, you you know, we love I want to throw a suitcase at someone That's all I
Burnx23 (51:18.649)
You
Gregory (51:22.971)
he's gonna, yeah. Yeah.
Burnx23 (51:26.498)
Yeah.
Gregory (51:28.852)
You know, the best Easter egg would be to throw a suitcase into James Bond game.
Uly (51:32.681)
Yeah, no, no, not even just a suitcase that auto locking suitcase that follows them around the corner That would be the perfect just like ultimate weapon you can get in game
Gregory (51:37.995)
Yup.
Gregory (51:43.415)
Yes, a hundred percent a hundred percent, but we are pretty much all out of time We covered a lot of different games pretty much We just wanted to have a gaming conversation show you guys the things that we're excited for And we would love to hear from you guys. What are you excited for?
Uly (51:55.339)
We forgot to mention one. We forgot to mention one. Coming out. Pokemon. Say what you will. So what you say. Say what you say. Say what you're gonna say. Yeah, it looks terrible. Yeah, the graphics are bad. Who cares? I want Pokemon. I like Pokemon. I will like Pokemon. Look.
Gregory (52:00.176)
Pokemon, how did I forget Pokemon?
Gregory (52:07.023)
No, I you know what? I don't I love Pokemon. I love Pokemon. I love Pokemon. I can't wait to do the four way free for all battles.
Burnx23 (52:11.982)
Do you?
Uly (52:16.811)
See, two of us here, I consider as failures because one, I mean, I said the switch to is a dumb idea. I'm still going to buy it. Greg was kind of like switch to is a dumb idea. I'm going to wait to buy it. And he still bought it at full price. Ty is the only one here holding out. He's actually going to be the smart one and wait till it's like reasonably priced.
Gregory (52:34.255)
It's a contagious thing. It's a contagious thing. But at same time, at the same time in my poor excuse coverage for myself, and I will admit poor excuse, this way people can't be like, well, you didn't have it. So how do you know you can't talk about it? Now I had it. Now I know. Now I can say I still back what I said originally. But I also knew that Nintendo was going to win. is what I what all of us said. This is why they keep winning.
Burnx23 (52:35.961)
you say that till... You say that till I get bored.
Uly (52:37.631)
Hahaha!
Uly (52:59.051)
You have done one. You should have said, you should have sent me one my ride. It's like, I know it's a dumb idea. I know it still going to do it. I'm that still going do it. I'm that failure of a gamer. I'm like, they got my money on lock. don't, I'm no, you keep kidding me.
Gregory (53:04.975)
Still gonna do it. Still gonna do it.
Burnx23 (53:07.629)
Yep.
Gregory (53:12.131)
I mean, to be fair to Nintendo was my very first video game console ever. Since I was a kid.
Burnx23 (53:18.777)
I mean, Sega wasn't mine, but you know, Sega and console.
Uly (53:21.505)
Sega Genesis was Street Fighter 2, I think it was at the time.
Burnx23 (53:27.897)
Streets of Rage. Streets of Rage.
Uly (53:29.313)
Street to Rage and then one of the shinobi games I forgot which one I remember fighting Harpies on a falling platform which was there that was which one
Gregory (53:37.165)
My very first game was Captain America and the Avengers.
Burnx23 (53:37.337)
think that was two.
think there was two.
Uly (53:41.697)
Yeah, that game super I that's the first that's the first time I tried hard games and I was like six And I had to figure out like how to dodge Doug hit dodge Doug it like that Harvey I think that Harvey was the first boss that took me a year to try to be
Burnx23 (53:49.305)
care.
Burnx23 (53:59.994)
Hey Hafeez! Sorry Friani. No, no, it's not that I'm bored. It's not that I'm bored.
Uly (54:02.984)
Hahaha
Gregory (54:03.151)
Well, that's a sign. All right, guys, tie is bored. So we got to wrap it up. Now he's got to get up like super early in the morning. We're recording this late in the evening. So yeah, because, Hey guys, you have my permission in the comments to say Daniel, learn how to tell time, save in the comments. All right. You have my permission to say Daniel, learn how to tell time, but we're going to get out of here.
Uly (54:06.581)
the
Burnx23 (54:12.055)
because somebody decided to be a raggedy bitch.
Burnx23 (54:22.649)
Mm-hmm.
all these clocks in the world and you can't tell time.
Uly (54:28.619)
You
Gregory (54:30.672)
You guys take care of yourself and each other. Let us know your thoughts. Let us know your favorite games that you're currently playing and you're looking forward to releasing the comments as well. We'll catch all you wonderful people in the next podcast later.